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New dev blog: Introducting the EVE Launcher

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Dalton Vanadis
Imperium Technologies
Dracarys.
#21 - 2011-11-09 15:20:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Dalton Vanadis
It's shiny, it's cool, here's to hoping it's all it's cracked up to be.

Thanks guys, keep up the hard work!

Also, how will this handle launching into multiple instances of EVE? As in, for every instance of EVE opened, will the launcher be opened first for all of them even if they're updated? e.g. - If a person has 3 or 4 client folders currently, for each instance they open will they have to clicky clicky play 3 or 4 times to get all their clients up, or just once and you're in?

Also, what some other guy said about the CD autorun thing, I see all the awesome benefits of this, but is there anyway where we don't have to add in an extra click step for every single time we open a client? As opposed to now where we only get that extra clicking every couple of weeks or so...

Otherwise, still shiny and neato and hopefully less headaches for patch day.
CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#22 - 2011-11-09 15:21:01 UTC
Lors Dornick wrote:
CCP Topknot wrote:
Third?

Indeed, but keeping with a good example, letting us like the author of the devblog instead of the like gathering Guard ;)


This new alarming trend could interfere with my cunning plan to hoard all the likes for myself and become part of the 1% "like elite".

CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer | @CCP_Guard

Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#23 - 2011-11-09 15:21:55 UTC
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
I find your lack of Macintosh support "disturbing".

But then, Windows users always need extra hand-holding. Twisted


But Macintosh users doesn't need that kind of help.

They'll get a window saying "you've messed up, want to restart?" and get presented with a box with the only alternative being 'yes' ;)

But as one who actually voted for you, you're out on a limb here Treb.

As a seasoned player, CSM and obviously a Machead, you should know that the Mac adoptation isn't an inhouse operation.

It's something they buy, to make wannabe artists, hippies and other random apple users happy ;)


CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.

BeanBagKing
The Order of Atlas
#24 - 2011-11-09 15:22:02 UTC
The auto patching might be useful on patch days, so it'll update while I sleep and be ready to play when I wake up. Other than those specific days I don't think I want it, like someone aboove said, its just one more item cluttering, my task bar and running in the background.

Also, it would be great if this conteolled sisi and dual installations too, just gather everything in one patcher/updater.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#25 - 2011-11-09 15:23:28 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
Lors Dornick wrote:
CCP Topknot wrote:
Third?

Indeed, but keeping with a good example, letting us like the author of the devblog instead of the like gathering Guard ;)


This new alarming trend could interfere with my cunning plan to hoard all the likes for myself and become part of the 1% "like elite".


Part of the 1%?

You actually want Treb to ask for you to be fired? ;)

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.

Nelix Trist
IRON-STAR ARMAMENTS
#26 - 2011-11-09 15:27:53 UTC
:( does this mean we lose our splash screen after 8 years of it being with us?

Oh hi

Arth Lawing
Penumbra Institute
#27 - 2011-11-09 15:29:36 UTC
ORCACommander wrote:
looks good but i don't want it. when i click the shortcut for my game i want to go into the game not into a cd autorun menu.


This.
If we wanted all that web content account management stuff we'd launch our Firefox and do it.
The auto patching isn't going to happen because if I'm not online playing I won't be running these pathetic launchers that everyone seems to insist on using these days as a way to clutter up your PC with useless ads and crap.

Old patch day = do stuff while waiting for server, do patch, play
New patch day = sit watching launcher wait for server, do patch, play
Dziu
Doomheim
#28 - 2011-11-09 15:29:58 UTC
If we got this can we have see some logoff option that wont restart the client EVERY SINGLE TIME? Pirate
Overspark
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2011-11-09 15:30:34 UTC
The whole separate launcher concept is a bit flawed on recent Windows versions (Vista & 7) as it doesn't play nice with the taskbar. If you have EVE pinned to your taskbar, you will notice that after launching EVE a new EVE icon appears on your taskbar instead of the pinned icon remaining active.

To circumvent this problem, people make shortcuts that bypass the current launcher (which only shows a splash screen) and executes the EVE binary directly. I use this to launch 2 different EVE's (from different directories) for 2 different monitors for example. By pinning those shortcuts I always know which icon is which EVE. If they weren't pinned I wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

If this problem can somehow be solved then this new launcher sounds like a nice thing I guess. And if it can't be solved then I hope this new launcher isn't the only way to patch EVE, and that the old way of launching the binary directly continues to work.
Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
#30 - 2011-11-09 15:31:29 UTC
The SiSi installer had a problem for a friend of mine who has his EVE installed on a different drive than C:. Specifically, it tried to download all patches etc. to C:, and then complained that there was not enough space, while D: had multiple gigabytes of space left.

It would be nice if the downloads of large quantities of data do not go to C: if the install directory is not on C: :-)

Otherwise, nice work!
Orisa Medeem
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2011-11-09 15:33:27 UTC
People here already mentioned that the same launcher could control the test servers installations.

I want to go a step further and suggest that those could be subfolders in the main Eve installation, keeping only the files that differ from the current TQ build.

I understand that not everyone will like this idea, because eve cannot manage multiple settings schemes, but thats another feature we would like to see.

:sand:  over  :awesome:

Dareth Meroul
OMRE
#32 - 2011-11-09 15:38:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Dareth Meroul
No more cool 3D scene playing in the background of the launcher? Sad It may be functionally irrelevant, but... I do love it so.

It doesn't have to be full screen the way it is now, but it sure would be nice to have a living EVE background for all of the UI/feature goodness coming to the foreground.
Crunchmeister
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2011-11-09 15:40:13 UTC
Just make sure that this front end is capable of launching multiple clients. It would be pointless otherwise.

Also, how about letting us log off a character without having to restart the client. Just take us back to the character selection screen and choose a new char on the same account!

Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
I find your lack of Macintosh support "disturbing".

But then, Windows users always need extra hand-holding. Twisted


Odd. Most Windows users consider Apple products to be geared to the technologically challenged who need training wheels and a hand-holding. P

People were constantly telling me I was crazy. For a long time I didn't believe them, but after a while, I started to think they might be right.

But it turns out that they were all wrong. One of the voices in my head is a psychiatrist and he says I'm perfectly sane.

Jackie Fisher
Syrkos Technologies
Joint Venture Conglomerate
#34 - 2011-11-09 15:40:37 UTC
CCP Topknot wrote:
Totally automatic updating where the launcher will update EVE automatically for you as soon as a patch becomes available while you are outside taking a romantic walk on the beach.


So I don't even have to click on something to delete my boot.ini in future! I hope this will be an optional feature.

In general though good stuff.

Fear God and Thread Nought

Verbz
Van Diemen's Demise
Northern Coalition.
#35 - 2011-11-09 15:41:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Verbz
Bah more rubbish that isnt needed in EvE

Why not complete the stuff that needs fixing instead of creating another button i have to click ...

Great use of resources when eve is dying, lets make a ****** box that people can stare at blankly ! /sarcasm

Im sorry im sure you guys work very hard at trying to sap as much money out of your player base as possible and all but this is just totally off base.

Meanwhile at CCP headquaters :

CCP Guard : Hey guys we got some great stuff to show you today on what the team is working on!

Dev Team : So this new feature will open a big ass pointless window on your screen , were you have to agree to play a game that you just double clicked on to run, yep designed specifically for fat kids with Cerebral Palsy

CCP Guard : Sounds great guys what else can it do!

Dev Team : There is this one semi useful feature but its just there to give people something to say " oh well it does this ", in all honesty we just need another way to shuv more advertisement in our already crippled player base's face!

CCP Guard : GREAT looks like its coming a long nicely, well thats all we have time for guys! Lol
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#36 - 2011-11-09 15:43:27 UTC
You will still provide manual patches, I hope?
M1AU
Zappenduster Inc.
#37 - 2011-11-09 15:43:35 UTC
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
I find your lack of Macintosh support "disturbing".

But then, Windows users always need extra hand-holding. Twisted


Well, the lack of Linux support is and will always be disturbing too. Sad
Euriti
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2011-11-09 15:44:38 UTC
Waste of time, waste of space
Adrenalinemax
Lap Dancers
Brothers of Tangra
#39 - 2011-11-09 15:48:04 UTC
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
I find your lack of Macintosh support "disturbing".

But then, Windows users always need extra hand-holding. Twisted


Just another feature mac users don't get

**** you assclowns, then again, I would rather you fix the mac client first.....I can only assume you are working on that instead.
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#40 - 2011-11-09 15:52:43 UTC
Totally automatic updating where the launcher will update EVE automatically for you as soon as a patch becomes available while you are outside taking a romantic walk on the beach. ... OMG I have a BEACH outside???


Good work ppl - keep that information flowing

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking