Ships & Modules

The domi was always over tanked, slow and underganked.

What you need for missions is an acceptable amount of tank and a huge dps. The rattler has acceptable dps and a huge amount of tank. It is and has always been suboptimal.

A ship only has the amount of tank you fit it for. If you ever saw one overtanked there was only the pilot to blame.

50km Grades II's with 800+ DPS to 50km with excellent tracking and a small but potentially effective missile compliment were more than enough for lvl 4's with good completion times. Not the best, but not everything can be.

Also in the case on needing that tank the RS was up to the task without loosing much. It was comparatively a good ship prior to nerfs/buffs that altered that balance.

I've been flying the RS for years.

Maxed every skill that applies to my fits to L5.

It got a buff when cruise missiles improved.

It got a buff when we got mods to increase drone damage.

This nerf is minimal for PvE even L4 missions.



When I L4 mission:

I use curators for the EM/Therm npc's.

Gardes for the kin/therm npc's.

Beserkers for the Angels.

Hornets as the light drone due to dps/tracking speed ratio.

I can still run any mission just fine with almost no difference in time needed.
(( I used exact same drones before and after the change ))

Over 1200 DPS 2 drone omni's and a tp with a MWD in the mids.
It's fast. Has huge health. Omni tanks any mission. Nothing compares to it in the dread scarlet mission.
It's damage lands and lands with ease even after this small nerf.
Never look at a survival guide again.


They gave RS almost 33% more damage in the past few years.
I for one do not see too much of an issue with this change at all.
We lost a little bit of tracking for when we are just cruising L4's.

We gained a ton for the PvP side of it with the change.

Better tracking when I need it. Better range when I need it. Plus overheating.
What was the price of that PvP buff again? Use some cap, pay attention in missions can't do both at once as well.

Hell I'll take it.
Also since we get to use them for PvP even more, I get cheaper ships because carebears are fools? Yes plz.

I'd still say the RS is the L4 king and now is slightly better for PvP both in use and in price.


The biggest issue for the RS now is it suffers harder when skills are low and it was already the ship that took the most SP to fly well.

The Rattlesnake is amazing, and Sentry drones are still the cats meow.

No point in having a tank on a ship if the Rats refuse to attack you :) OH LOOK A DRONES OUT .......KILL!!!!!

gota fund the pvp somehow

This has literally nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

Get EFT.

I dont want to use third party applications to play a game. And this happened after they changed the omnis. So i dont use my rattler anymore, paladin is seeing alot of action though. :)

Honestly HML tengu is still totally fine. RLML cerb is totally fine. I'm willing to bet the rattlesnake is still fine for missioning.

The argument was after the 1.1 drone nerfs the Rattlesnake's performance was reduced for missions. Not that it can't do them.

I don't think anyone would argue that the Rattlesnake isn't capable of doing level 4 missions... Even Angels Extravaganza. I think it would be an "okay" ship if it was a non faction T1 battleship. The problem is it's not. Compared to its sister "Pirate Faction" battleships (Machariel, Vindicator, and Nightmare) the Rattlesnake can't compete.

Except the bonus room if you need a heavy tank for AE you're doing something wrong.... I tank it just fine in a vanilla Dominix with 2 hardeners and a LAR... Thats not using a MJD to keep range.