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ESS is Broken PLZ FIX

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#61 - 2014-01-30 19:49:08 UTC
damn well I think i'll get an ess and utilize it till the bug is fixed lol.

and why did I not think to do this, that's a great use of the ess.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#62 - 2014-01-30 19:54:42 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.

We'll keep you updated.


Called it.
Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#63 - 2014-01-30 19:59:54 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
damn well I think i'll get an ess and utilize it till the bug is fixed lol.

and why did I not think to do this, that's a great use of the ess.


Using a known bug to gain advantage is called "exploit" ... just sayin' P
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#64 - 2014-01-30 20:00:23 UTC
All I can say is lol.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#65 - 2014-01-30 20:05:05 UTC
Pinky Hops wrote:
Bjurn Akely wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.

We'll keep you updated.


Ahh. SO EFFIN RELIEVED. Thanks for that Fozzie, now go smack the responsible people on the head for letting that bug through.


Dude.

It was pretty obviously a bug, lol.


Looked like Emergent Gameplay to me.
Bjurn Akely
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2014-01-30 20:07:37 UTC
Pinky Hops wrote:
Bjurn Akely wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.

We'll keep you updated.


Ahh. SO EFFIN RELIEVED. Thanks for that Fozzie, now go smack the responsible people on the head for letting that bug through.


Dude.

It was pretty obviously a bug, lol.


After the changes the Discovery scanner brought (new sigs automatically showing up on the Probe Scanner) this actually did not seem that much of a bug. I hoped it was, but trust is a thing earned.... I'll leave it at that.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#67 - 2014-01-30 20:49:07 UTC
Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
damn well I think i'll get an ess and utilize it till the bug is fixed lol.

and why did I not think to do this, that's a great use of the ess.


Using a known bug to gain advantage is called "exploit" ... just sayin' P


I know, I just wish I had known sooner. I might buy a few just so I can mess with null bears lol

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Qual
Knights of a Once Square Table INC.
#68 - 2014-01-30 20:49:26 UTC
Kelven Xyn wrote:


IFs that so hell give us back old Omnis.


Again I prefer to go even further back. Back to when NOTHING could scan a full system. I can live without race specific scan probes though. May they rest in peace forever...
Desmond Strickler
#69 - 2014-01-30 21:16:10 UTC
ITT: People who have never searched for pvp in wormholes.

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"My other dread is a Swaglafar"[/b]
Jessica Danikov
Network Danikov
#70 - 2014-01-30 22:08:55 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.

We'll keep you updated.


Was it a bug or an omission? A bug being 'We didn't intend it to be that way, but we made a mistake', an omission being 'We didn't think of that, but now that you mention it, it obviously shouldn't be that way, so we'll fix it'.

A bug is... well, par for the course (grr, CCP).

An omission? Well, I guess we all missed it, the ESS was made available on SiSi for testing and publicly discussed by the community. As much as I'd like to crucify everyone who touched it if that were the case, that really is pretty much everyone.
McBorsk
Multispace Technologies Inc
#71 - 2014-01-30 22:29:01 UTC
Dmitry Wizard wrote:
its stated in the attributes that it has to be activated at least 3000 km from a gate or station... so why does this thing have the abillity to be anchored 5 km from a wormhole? not only does it have a warp distruption bubble on it (i can deal with that) but it broadcasts IN LOCAL who has jumped into the wormhole its anchored on

EVE System > Dmitry Wizard is now in proximity of the Encounter Surveilance System

keep this crap in null and get it off my wormholes!

these kinds of things make me think CCP hates us wormholers


We need MORE pvp in wormholes.... not less


Better yet. Keep it out of eve altogether.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#72 - 2014-01-30 22:35:42 UTC
Does the fix involve wiping the ESS from the database?
Cause otherwise I don't consider it fixed.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
ArmEagle Kusoni
Knights of Nii
The 20 Minuters
#73 - 2014-01-30 22:40:29 UTC
Jessica Danikov wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.

We'll keep you updated.


Was it a bug or an omission? A bug being 'We didn't intend it to be that way, but we made a mistake', an omission being 'We didn't think of that, but now that you mention it, it obviously shouldn't be that way, so we'll fix it'.

A bug is... well, par for the course (grr, CCP).

An omission? Well, I guess we all missed it, the ESS was made available on SiSi for testing and publicly discussed by the community. As much as I'd like to crucify everyone who touched it if that were the case, that really is pretty much everyone.

It doesn't help that POSes (at least ours) aren't copied to Sisi (strangely enough, one 'giant'-ish container was copied once. Which makes it quite 'uncomfortable' to do decent w-space testing. Unless you put a lot of effort into it.
ArmEagle Kusoni
Knights of Nii
The 20 Minuters
#74 - 2014-01-30 22:41:15 UTC
McBorsk wrote:
Dmitry Wizard wrote:
its stated in the attributes that it has to be activated at least 3000 km from a gate or station... so why does this thing have the abillity to be anchored 5 km from a wormhole? not only does it have a warp distruption bubble on it (i can deal with that) but it broadcasts IN LOCAL who has jumped into the wormhole its anchored on

EVE System > Dmitry Wizard is now in proximity of the Encounter Surveilance System

keep this crap in null and get it off my wormholes!

these kinds of things make me think CCP hates us wormholers


We need MORE pvp in wormholes.... not less


Better yet. Keep it out of eve altogether.

Let that be the hotfix! Then figure out over forever how to actually fix it!
Thead Enco
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#75 - 2014-01-30 22:54:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Thead Enco
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.

We'll keep you updated.


"Bug" or forgot to add a value for wormholes......
45thtiger 0109
Pan-Intergalatic Business Community
#76 - 2014-01-30 22:55:14 UTC
Pinky Hops wrote:
Bjurn Akely wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.

We'll keep you updated.


Ahh. SO EFFIN RELIEVED. Thanks for that Fozzie, now go smack the responsible people on the head for letting that bug through.


Dude.

It was pretty obviously a bug, lol.



What you mean to say a bug hole not a wormhole bahahahaahah LolP

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Eva Ersatz
New Eden Security Services
#77 - 2014-01-30 23:08:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Eva Ersatz
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
Pinky Hops wrote:
Bjurn Akely wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.

We'll keep you updated.


Ahh. SO EFFIN RELIEVED. Thanks for that Fozzie, now go smack the responsible people on the head for letting that bug through.

Dude.

It was pretty obviously a bug, lol.

Looked like Emergent Gameplay to me.

Yeah - I was briefly thrilled by the development. Granted, the ESS wasn't intended to perform the role, but providing an additional, destructible, way for a wormhole corporation to "claim" its territory while helping to secure the space sure seemed like the "step toward colonization" that deployables are advertised as.

Anyway, I'm now down 25 million ISK, but it was fun for a few minutes to have a running log of entries and exits through my wormhole. It's too bad that the "bug" was eliminated before its implications could be fully discussed.
Seismic Stan
Freebooted Junkworks
#78 - 2014-01-30 23:30:03 UTC
Eva Ersatz wrote:
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
Pinky Hops wrote:
Bjurn Akely wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.

We'll keep you updated.


Ahh. SO EFFIN RELIEVED. Thanks for that Fozzie, now go smack the responsible people on the head for letting that bug through.

Dude.

It was pretty obviously a bug, lol.

Looked like Emergent Gameplay to me.

Yeah - I was briefly thrilled by the development. Granted, the ESS wasn't intended to perform the role, but providing an additional, destructible, way for a wormhole corporation to "claim" its territory while helping to secure the space sure seemed like the "step toward colonization" that deployables are advertised as.

Anyway, I'm now down 25 million ISK, but it was fun for a few minutes to have a running log of entries and exits through my wormhole. It's too bad that the "bug" was eliminated before its implications could be fully discussed.

Maybe this episode will provide the inspiration for a deployable designed for the purpose. With some tweaking, some kind of intel gathering tool might make things interesting.

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Moridin Mandarb
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#79 - 2014-01-30 23:39:27 UTC
So let me get this straight - Sleepers don't have bounties. Which means that the drawback of the ESS, the ratting penalty doesn't apply. Yet with one active, you get LP for each kill.

Am I missing something here?
Eva Ersatz
New Eden Security Services
#80 - 2014-01-30 23:41:04 UTC
Quote:

Maybe this episode will provide the inspiration for a deployable designed for the purpose. With some tweaking, some kind of intel gathering tool might make things interesting.

Like a deployable surveillance system that could inform the user of encounters? Blink Kidding aside, that would be cool.