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Vembuvend
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-01-29 12:13:15 UTC
Noticed that no Leviathans died in the last big fight and was wondering why it's so. Here's the picture: http://puu.sh/6BmxN.png


What is more likely?
No Leviathans died because:
1) They are so good no-one dares to shoot them?
2) They are so bad no-one cares to shoot them?
Rab See
Stellar Dynamics
#2 - 2014-01-29 14:57:01 UTC
Vembuvend wrote:
Noticed that no Leviathans died in the last big fight and was wondering why it's so. Here's the picture: http://puu.sh/6BmxN.png


What is more likely?
No Leviathans died because:
1) They are so good no-one dares to shoot them?
2) They are so bad no-one cares to shoot them?


Predominantly armour fleets. (Erebus and Avatar).

Note that mostly, the killed ships proportionally were those armour ships or the weakest titan (shield), the Rag. Also note that Leviathan is stronger than the Rag shield wise so would come second on target list. A lot of CFC Rags died. Easier to kill - its the Minmatar capital curse. Leviathans ... how many were there that we cant see 'killed'? Need that stat 1st.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#3 - 2014-01-29 16:04:10 UTC
Were there even any on the field? I understand they're primarily used for bridging and boosting due to being shield ships.

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Rainbow Dash
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-01-29 17:53:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Rainbow Dash
There were a bunch of CFC and friends levis there. None died because why would you shoot the ship with the best tank in the entire game?
Vembuvend
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-01-29 18:26:06 UTC
Rainbow Dash wrote:
There were a bunch of CFC and friends levis there. None died because why would you shoot the ship with the best tank in the entire game?

That's the reply I was looking for. Blink
Miasmos
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-01-29 21:04:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Miasmos
Dual tanked titans are the thing for 2014 onwards I predict. Who cares about damage mods when you just volley lesser things off the field with doomsday coordination of 50+ ****?

Just slap deadspace dual tank on them to push the threshold number of titans required for the volley. XL guns won't cycle in the relevant fights where you want tank anyway.

(edit: naturally you can swap to damage mods as you please during fight)
(edit2: wonder why this was not the standard procedure for any supercapital slugfest, am I missing something or are titan wielding coalitions bad at fitting?)
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#7 - 2014-01-29 22:34:51 UTC
Miasmos wrote:
Dual tanked titans are the thing for 2014 onwards I predict. Who cares about damage mods when you just volley lesser things off the field with doomsday coordination of 50+ ****?

Just slap deadspace dual tank on them to push the threshold number of titans required for the volley. XL guns won't cycle in the relevant fights where you want tank anyway.

(edit: naturally you can swap to damage mods as you please during fight)
(edit2: wonder why this was not the standard procedure for any supercapital slugfest, am I missing something or are titan wielding coalitions bad at fitting?)




It might have something to do with DD only affecting capital ships...
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#8 - 2014-01-29 22:51:39 UTC
Rainbow Dash wrote:
There were a bunch of CFC and friends levis there. None died because why would you shoot the ship with the best tank in the entire game?



Makes way more sense than my answer, lol.

I wonder if CCP anticipated the relative power of DD's being pumped up by 10% tidi.

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Rainbow Dash
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-01-30 01:30:05 UTC
Miasmos wrote:
Dual tanked titans are the thing for 2014 onwards I predict. Who cares about damage mods when you just volley lesser things off the field with doomsday coordination of 50+ ****?

Just slap deadspace dual tank on them to push the threshold number of titans required for the volley. XL guns won't cycle in the relevant fights where you want tank anyway.

(edit: naturally you can swap to damage mods as you please during fight)
(edit2: wonder why this was not the standard procedure for any supercapital slugfest, am I missing something or are titan wielding coalitions bad at fitting?)


Erebus/Avatar are not cap stable if you fill their mids with a shield tank, which is a very large issue with titans. Some pilots carry a shield tank anyways.

Rag/Levi usually carry an armor tank in their CHA, sometimes they don't have time to refit though (they can't fit armor ahead of time without crippling their shield tank)
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#10 - 2014-01-30 03:18:49 UTC
Rainbow Dash wrote:

Rag/Levi usually carry an armor tank in their CHA, sometimes they don't have time to refit though (they can't fit armor ahead of time without crippling their shield tank)


Why does fitting an armor tank criple their shield tank? Are they using power diags or something?

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Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
#11 - 2014-01-30 03:52:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Bertrand Butler
Batelle wrote:


Why does fitting an armor tank criple their shield tank? Are they using power diags or something?


There is no reason not to fit PDS in a levi, especially since you can get up to 10mil EHP more from them, as well as a lot more juice to work with...An example:

[Leviathan, maxtank]

Damage Control II
Caldari Navy Power Diagnostic System
Caldari Navy Power Diagnostic System
Caldari Navy Power Diagnostic System
Caldari Navy Power Diagnostic System

Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pith X-Type EM Ward Field
Pith X-Type EM Ward Field
Pith X-Type Explosive Deflection Field
Pith X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
Pith X-Type Thermic Dissipation Field

CONCORD Modified Cloaking Device
Oblivion
Jump Portal Generator I
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Capital Core Defense Field Extender II
Capital Core Defense Field Extender II
Capital Core Defense Field Extender II

Genolution Core Augmentation CA-1
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-4
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-3
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-2
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Energy Systems Operation EO-606
Zainou 'Gnome' Shield Management SM-706
Inherent Implants 'Squire' Energy Management EM-806
Zainou 'Gnome' Shield Operation SP-906