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Sentry drone nerf?

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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#161 - 2014-01-31 10:47:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Tauranon wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:


HOW IN HELL you have 8 HIGH SLOTS in damage on a marauder?


PLEASE, STOP POSTING.. and go to eve uni.


Its a pretty well understood shorthand for the marauder weapon bonuses.




Coming from him.. i doubt it... he sheer amount of nonsense he posts does not support that

Taur is correct. In fact I had the equivalent of 16 high slots since I was using RHML which double the already doubled dps of the Golems missile launchers.


Tauranon wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

No it was more the fault that 8 high slots of damage from an advanced battleship costing a billion + with fittings costing billions requiring many months of training can be completely defeated by one or two cheap low skilled cruiser remote repairers that somehow magically put ships together again.


One more thing I might add, is that had you brought along 1 friend with an alpha maelstrom, then you may in fact have been able to shoot more than the repairable buffer in a single salvo, which would have meant in 2 or 3 salvos that thing was going to pop, even if it could repair more dps than the Maelstrom fired.

ie there is a very good weapon out there for ruining cruiser buffers through RR.

Why? I already had a ship that required more isk, more training and more balls to solo than the entire fleet I was attacking.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Moneta Curran
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#162 - 2014-01-31 11:03:41 UTC

I was somehow under the impression that this topic was not actually about your failed PVP endeavours.

Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#163 - 2014-01-31 11:10:49 UTC
Moneta Curran wrote:

I was somehow under the impression that this topic was not actually about your failed PVP endeavours.


Its about CCP's inability to make changes that are relevant. Whether they are drones, RR, fleet or SoV based they're invariably changes that do nothing for playability and everything for null sec blob warfare.

In regards to the recent drone changes, they nerfed solo drone users, but made no difference at all to fleets of drone assisting morons using insta locking interceptors with 500 assisting drones.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#164 - 2014-01-31 15:35:22 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

You're obviously trolling I guess. Just a few examples of people training for things that are now useless.

Titan doomsday...


LOL WHAT.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.

Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#165 - 2014-01-31 15:47:53 UTC
Moneta Curran wrote:
Thomas Mickelson wrote:
Ok so I use a Myrmidon for ratting, I got 4 curators and can usually rip stuff up before the rats even get into lock on range.
Now all of a sudden they can't hit the broadside of a barn, and at that, Omnidirectional tracking links seem to be activitable now, and I thought they were passive before.

CCP plan to fix this? Or was this intentional?


Nice way of showing you have been living under a rock for the last couple of months. Are you familiar with the concept of patch notes?




I am quite sick of tards throwing this around. Not all of EvE's playerbase are basement dwellers that can read every patch note or read every forum. Granted if you are the type that does not have time to read patch notes that should be explained at the begining and then take a massively passive nature to one's OP. But you sir are a **** along with whoever else screams "shoulda read the patch notes grrr slurpgurggleyarr"
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#166 - 2014-01-31 15:49:29 UTC
Quote:
Not all of EvE's playerbase are basement dwellers that can read every patch note or read every forum.


No, but presumably you do use the launcher.

At no point did you think "Hey, patch notes! Better check those out."?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#167 - 2014-01-31 15:50:03 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Why? I already had a ship that required more isk, more training and more balls to solo than the entire fleet I was attacking.


Ladies and gentlemen, another sterling example of how this player does not get eve.

Did you start the game and train straight into a raven with heavy launchers, dual tank, and no drones at all?

Muffin...

Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.

Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#168 - 2014-01-31 15:51:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Slade Trillgon
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Quote:
Not all of EvE's playerbase are basement dwellers that can read every patch note or read every forum.


No, but presumably you do use the launcher.

At no point did you think "Hey, patch notes! Better check those out."?


But if you have been out for awhile, checking the patch notes could take your whole play time Blink

The guy asked a simple question, without vitriol I may add, and he gets blasted with elementary school type response. Very **** like coming from aged males.


EDIT:

John Bosch wrote:
Snip.....

(This is assuming, of course, that the dev blog I just read on the matter is accurate as of patch time.)


Oh and then there is this....(from another thread, but a valid point none the less.)
Moneta Curran
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#169 - 2014-01-31 19:59:22 UTC
Slade Trillgon wrote:
Moneta Curran wrote:
Thomas Mickelson wrote:
Ok so I use a Myrmidon for ratting, I got 4 curators and can usually rip stuff up before the rats even get into lock on range.
Now all of a sudden they can't hit the broadside of a barn, and at that, Omnidirectional tracking links seem to be activitable now, and I thought they were passive before.

CCP plan to fix this? Or was this intentional?


Nice way of showing you have been living under a rock for the last couple of months. Are you familiar with the concept of patch notes?




I am quite sick of tards throwing this around. Not all of EvE's playerbase are basement dwellers that can read every patch note or read every forum. Granted if you are the type that does not have time to read patch notes that should be explained at the begining and then take a massively passive nature to one's OP. But you sir are a **** along with whoever else screams "shoulda read the patch notes grrr slurpgurggleyarr"


Common sense would dictate that if something has been changed intentionally, it must have been documented in the patch notes. Failing to grasp this and creating another pointless thread here is nothing but a shameful display of cluelessness and poor judgement.

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#170 - 2014-01-31 21:06:03 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
In fact I had the equivalent of 16 high slots since I was using RHML

See there's your problem.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#171 - 2014-01-31 21:57:36 UTC
Batelle wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

You're obviously trolling I guess. Just a few examples of people training for things that are now useless.

Titan doomsday...


LOL WHAT.

The original area of effect Doomsday.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#172 - 2014-02-01 01:33:16 UTC
Moneta Curran wrote:


Common sense would dictate that if something has been changed intentionally, it must have been documented in the patch notes.



Actually the RLMLand RHML cahnges were intentional but missed the patch notes :D

Just saying ...
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#173 - 2014-02-01 02:49:48 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
In fact I had the equivalent of 16 high slots since I was using RHML

See there's your problem.

Yeah because RHML are not the best battleship sized missile launcher to use to do highest dps against cruiser sized targets.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#174 - 2014-02-01 03:15:01 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Infinity Ziona wrote:
The original area of effect Doomsday.

While they're not quite as ridiculously overpowered as they used to be, the ability to deliver 3 million alpha damage to a capital target is still very useful and incredibly powerful. See: HED-GP, B-R5RB. See Asakai for an example of where titans were neutered by their inability to use it.

Infinity Ziona wrote:
Yeah because RHML are not the best battleship sized missile launcher to use to do highest dps against cruiser sized targets.

They probably aren't, because of the reload timer. Ideally you should have been using cruise.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#175 - 2014-02-03 17:33:47 UTC
Moneta Curran wrote:
Slade Trillgon wrote:
Moneta Curran wrote:
Thomas Mickelson wrote:
Ok so I use a Myrmidon for ratting, I got 4 curators and can usually rip stuff up before the rats even get into lock on range.
Now all of a sudden they can't hit the broadside of a barn, and at that, Omnidirectional tracking links seem to be activitable now, and I thought they were passive before.

CCP plan to fix this? Or was this intentional?


Nice way of showing you have been living under a rock for the last couple of months. Are you familiar with the concept of patch notes?




I am quite sick of tards throwing this around. Not all of EvE's playerbase are basement dwellers that can read every patch note or read every forum. Granted if you are the type that does not have time to read patch notes that should be explained at the begining and then take a massively passive nature to one's OP. But you sir are a **** along with whoever else screams "shoulda read the patch notes grrr slurpgurggleyarr"


Common sense would dictate that if something has been changed intentionally, it must have been documented in the patch notes. Failing to grasp this and creating another pointless thread here is nothing but a shameful display of cluelessness and poor judgement.




Common sense would dictate that one should read the OP, interpret from it that the poster did not read the patch notes and then recognize and see that the last question of the OP was, "Or is this intentional?"

All the first responder needed to do was say, 'Yes this change was intentional and you can read up on it in Patch # .......

But no this is general discussion where no one knows how to answer a question properly.

Point, set and match.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#176 - 2014-02-03 17:41:57 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Batelle wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

You're obviously trolling I guess. Just a few examples of people training for things that are now useless.

Titan doomsday...


LOL WHAT.

The original area of effect Doomsday.


Yeah, a lot of people cried when they got rid of it. Too bad though, it needed to go (I remember when they started alpha-ing entire capital fleets). But you cannot possibly be calling the current version useless. Doomsdays are the only reason all those titans died the other day. Doomsdays are the only reason to bring a titan into combat. Doomsdays are a perfect example of why CCP doesn't and shouldn't refund SP for simply changing something.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#177 - 2014-02-03 17:49:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Batelle wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

You're obviously trolling I guess. Just a few examples of people training for things that are now useless.
Titan doomsday...

LOL WHAT.

The original area of effect Doomsday.

…which doesn't make the current doomsday useless. Calling it such just indicates that you have no clue about how to properly measure usefulness.

By the way, you have yet to come up with a single example of a change that “invalidate an entire line of ships / modules / skills” or that invalidates skillspoints without a reimbursement.
Bellatren Star
Doomheim
#178 - 2014-02-03 18:43:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Bellatren Star
I don't have too much of a problem with CCP nerfing Sentry Drone tracking as a Drone user what bothers me is the fact you now have to use Light Combat Drones to counter close fast moving Frigates and it's really really difficult to do that when you have 4 Frigates insta locking them and alpha'ing them off the field.

I wish they would have a look at trying to fix this.

Bellatren Star: - "I have absolutly no idea what's on the other side of that NullSec gate but i'm going to jump my Freighter in anyway! #YOLO!." - Just some provi guy

Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#179 - 2014-02-03 18:57:37 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Sentries are so last year.

It's all about light combat drones now. Trust me.

Mr Epeen Cool


These stats also effect combat drones.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#180 - 2014-02-04 09:35:40 UTC
Arsine Mayhem wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Sentries are so last year.

It's all about light combat drones now. Trust me.

Mr Epeen Cool


These stats also effect combat drones.



1. No saneperson fits omnis to a boat using light drones.

2. Lights have had a significant buff with the drone shield recharge changes