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Solar panels planetary energy increase.
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Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-03-18 17:32:48 UTC
It is keeping me busy for longer.
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#22 - 2014-03-18 22:57:22 UTC
So what stuff is recommended for intake to get sense of this thread ?

I tried alcohol but this thread is still a mess and letters are a perhaps bit blurrier now.
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-05-15 01:12:06 UTC
A glass of red wine a day may be good for the heart.
(It depends on conditions. Probably no use if you are addicted to alcohol or with ulcers or the like.
You'd need some equivalent. Even then, that glass spread over the day may be better than in one shot.)

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Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#24 - 2014-05-15 01:14:35 UTC
Holy necro thread!!!


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Evelyn Meiyi
Corvidae Trading and Holding
#25 - 2014-05-15 01:32:56 UTC
Akita T wrote:
Oiras Isimazu wrote:
Can solar panel be used to generate too much energy on earth?

Long story short, as long as we're talking solar panels ON the planet, it's physically impossible to generate "TOO much energy"


Quite so, but the problem with solar panels is that, using current technology, constructing one consumes more energy than the panel itself will return in its useful life.

Also, you still lose a portion of the energy that's produced, don't you?
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2014-05-15 01:39:40 UTC
Evelyn Meiyi wrote:
Akita T wrote:
Oiras Isimazu wrote:
Can solar panel be used to generate too much energy on earth?

Long story short, as long as we're talking solar panels ON the planet, it's physically impossible to generate "TOO much energy"


Quite so, but the problem with solar panels is that, using current technology, constructing one consumes more energy than the panel itself will return in its useful life.

Also, you still lose a portion of the energy that's produced, don't you?

Except that the transfer of energy that is used to construct it is more focused and used for needed power.

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Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-05-15 06:21:29 UTC
If Batman were here he would've sorted you all out already.

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

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Evelyn Meiyi
Corvidae Trading and Holding
#28 - 2014-05-15 20:05:06 UTC
Lar Tadaruwa wrote:


Except that the transfer of energy that is used to construct it is more focused and used for needed power.


It's not a 'transfer of energy' that matters -- a solar panel will not give a return on the energy invested in its construction.
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-05-15 20:12:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Lar Tadaruwa
Evelyn Meiyi wrote:
Lar Tadaruwa wrote:


Except that the transfer of energy that is used to construct it is more focused and used for needed power.


It's not a 'transfer of energy' that matters -- a solar panel will not give a return on the energy invested in its construction.

It will generate energy in a place that would otherwise require more energy and resources to move the power to that location.

It costs more energy to move a mass to a point than the energy it contains.

Edit:
Alternately, you can interchange mass and matter.
Even if the matter is not in the panel before.

Edit 2:
I used to work with B2 panels.

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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#30 - 2014-05-15 20:33:53 UTC
Evelyn Meiyi wrote:
the problem with solar panels is that, using current technology, constructing one consumes more energy than the panel itself will return in its useful life.

Sorry, but that's PROBABLY no longer true, and it surely won't be true soon... but yeah, it was true a few years ago.
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es3038824


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Also, you still lose a portion of the energy that's produced, don't you?

That's sadly true about all types of electric power generation.

Oh, and it's already taken into account in those calculations - if it wouldn't have been, photovoltaics would have been considered global economy total net energy producers several years ago already.
Also, they have NOT taken into account anything but installed facilities energy generation so far, which means those still in service (and future installs) will "pay back" all globally incurred "energy debts" in the next 6 years or so.

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