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Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#241 - 2014-01-27 23:45:45 UTC
This was a good battle in which to finish off the vodka and get going on the rum.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
hedge betts Shiyurida
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#242 - 2014-01-27 23:46:37 UTC
i wonder how long it will take goons to claim they caused the sov bill to be missed.

and

regarding the patch, battle or no battle the server goes down at noon tomorrow

Pog mo thoin

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#243 - 2014-01-27 23:47:21 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
This was a good battle in which to finish off the vodka and get going on the rum.

Reverse the order, and I'm there.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#244 - 2014-01-27 23:47:58 UTC
Also god damn I hope we get to kill Shrike again since I'm pretty sure he's flying The Enslaver's old titan and that must be the oldest titan in the game at this point.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#245 - 2014-01-27 23:48:39 UTC
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:

regarding the patch, battle or no battle the server goes down at noon tomorrow

Well, yes. But how long will it stay down, and will it come back up sporting a shiny new relesae number, or only the old care-worn one?
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#246 - 2014-01-27 23:49:37 UTC
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:
This was a good battle in which to finish off the vodka and get going on the rum.

Reverse the order, and I'm there.


I started knocking back that vodka bottle (neat, blech) the day after I heard about Vile Rat :/

Somehow appropriate to finish it off on the day of SUPERCAP HOLOCAUST HOLY JESUS.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#247 - 2014-01-27 23:53:26 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Also god damn I hope we get to kill Shrike again since I'm pretty sure he's flying The Enslaver's old titan and that must be the oldest titan in the game at this point.


Ah. I remember back when Ens was flying a dual MWD crow. Lol
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#248 - 2014-01-27 23:54:44 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Carmen Electra wrote:


Quote:
Reimbursement will only be granted if a loss is attributable to a bug or server error.


Quote:
Any losses of any kind resulting from a large-scale player engagement are not covered by this reimbursement policy.


These sections of the policy are clearly at odds with each other in some situations. Just because CCP has arbitrarily given itself a lot of latitude in this matter doesn't make it a good way to interact with customers. CCP is saying "YOU are responsible for OUR technical failings". I'm sorry if I'm not seeing your point; all I have to draw on is my 8 years as a software developer, and that M.O. has never been acceptable on any of the projects I've ever worked on.

I'm not saying that CCP should up and magically fix their servers, because I know that's not possible. But CCP not reimbursing those dreads in the interest of maintaining the sandbox integrity is punishing the players for their own shortcomings.


There are HARDWARE limitations that have nothing to do with software. CCP could attempt to cap the system with a specific number of players, but that would be abused by all parties. So CCP lets players push as hard as they can, and the resulting computing mess is left to the players to sort out. Its like an elevator that has a max capacity of 50 people. You can cram 100 people in there, and it may crash resulting in lots of elevator riders having a bad day, but that's not the fault of the elevator company!


A court may decide differently...


And that's one of the issues of our justice system!
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#249 - 2014-01-27 23:56:01 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:
This was a good battle in which to finish off the vodka and get going on the rum.

Reverse the order, and I'm there.


I started knocking back that vodka bottle (neat, blech) the day after I heard about Vile Rat :/

Somehow appropriate to finish it off on the day of SUPERCAP HOLOCAUST HOLY JESUS.

Fair enough. Carry on smartly!
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#250 - 2014-01-27 23:56:45 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Also god damn I hope we get to kill Shrike again since I'm pretty sure he's flying The Enslaver's old titan and that must be the oldest titan in the game at this point.



A long long time ago one of the devs stated that they wanted hulls to have some unique identifier - not sure if it was something like a serial number in the info sheet or some number on the hull, but they just could not implement it at that time. Quite a few players in that F&I thread loved the idea. Your statement reminds me of that, and it would certainly be a good little drop of content if there was a way of knowing if that was indeed the oldest titan.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#251 - 2014-01-27 23:58:42 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Carmen Electra wrote:


Quote:
Reimbursement will only be granted if a loss is attributable to a bug or server error.


Quote:
Any losses of any kind resulting from a large-scale player engagement are not covered by this reimbursement policy.


These sections of the policy are clearly at odds with each other in some situations. Just because CCP has arbitrarily given itself a lot of latitude in this matter doesn't make it a good way to interact with customers. CCP is saying "YOU are responsible for OUR technical failings". I'm sorry if I'm not seeing your point; all I have to draw on is my 8 years as a software developer, and that M.O. has never been acceptable on any of the projects I've ever worked on.

I'm not saying that CCP should up and magically fix their servers, because I know that's not possible. But CCP not reimbursing those dreads in the interest of maintaining the sandbox integrity is punishing the players for their own shortcomings.


There are HARDWARE limitations that have nothing to do with software. CCP could attempt to cap the system with a specific number of players, but that would be abused by all parties. So CCP lets players push as hard as they can, and the resulting computing mess is left to the players to sort out. Its like an elevator that has a max capacity of 50 people. You can cram 100 people in there, and it may crash resulting in lots of elevator riders having a bad day, but that's not the fault of the elevator company!


To expand your analogy (so you can see why it's broken):

This elevator company advertises itself by showing examples of 50+ people crammed into an elevator and selling it as uniquely possible in their elevators.
Everyone involved in getting in that elevator that day had previously gone in many other elevators with more people, and experienced no sudden falls.
The elevator company refuse to say how many their elevator can hold, but will (whilst it's filling up) make a big show of telling everyone how they've strengthened it so another 50+ ride can zip up the shaft.

Now.

How many people can ride in the elevator?


CCP has a long history of saying that if you put to many people into the elevator and it crashes, you will not be compensated for your injuries. They do this because they don't know how many people can fit in the elevator, and if such information was public, it would be gamed anyway.

You may not like this solution, but it is the current compromise. We players will always push things to the limit, and if you are part of pushing things to the limit, you have to deal with the consequences when things break!
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#252 - 2014-01-27 23:58:52 UTC
Carmen Electra wrote:
Plastic Psycho wrote:
You actually had me believing for a bit you were serious - But this is so far over-the-top that now it's clear you're just a troll.


I don't even know how to respond to this. What part of my reply came off as non-serious?


The sheer stupidity of it.

Never forget. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sfaN8zT8E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_ZjVyRxx4 Trust me, I'm an Anomaly. DUST 514 FOR PC
Mario Putzo
#253 - 2014-01-27 23:59:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Mario Putzo
Caps - 1578
Immensea - 2014-01-27 23:23
Dreadnought 633
Carrier 499
Super Carrier 332
Titan 114

WOWZZZA

Hey CCP we need a new ship class tier to many Capitals in game.
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#254 - 2014-01-28 00:00:44 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Also god damn I hope we get to kill Shrike again since I'm pretty sure he's flying The Enslaver's old titan and that must be the oldest titan in the game at this point.



A long long time ago one of the devs stated that they wanted hulls to have some unique identifier - not sure if it was something like a serial number in the info sheet or some number on the hull, but they just could not implement it at that time. Quite a few players in that F&I thread loved the idea. Your statement reminds me of that, and it would certainly be a good little drop of content if there was a way of knowing if that was indeed the oldest titan.



Not to mention it makes for great press releases. Blink
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#255 - 2014-01-28 00:02:24 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Caps - 1578

Dreadnought 633
Carrier 499
Super Carrier 332
Titan 114

WOWZZZA

Hey CCP we need a new ship class tier to many Capitals in game.

ShockedShockedShocked
Mein Gott!


B-R5RB... it's... It's full of Tears!
PinkPanter
Valhalla Drinking Team
#256 - 2014-01-28 00:03:28 UTC
I'm on the receiving side here and damn wish lag was smaller.

GF so far we'll see where it ends lol
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#257 - 2014-01-28 00:25:43 UTC
PinkPanter wrote:
I'm on the receiving side here and damn wish lag was smaller.

GF so far we'll see where it ends lol

I did not realize The Scope had aligned with one of the coalitions. Shocked
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#258 - 2014-01-28 00:26:53 UTC
Yay \o/ :D

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE
PinkPanter
Valhalla Drinking Team
#259 - 2014-01-28 00:28:00 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:
I'm on the receiving side here and damn wish lag was smaller.

GF so far we'll see where it ends lol

I did not realize The Scope had aligned with one of the coalitions. Shocked


I'm in nully. But I like this avatar most so I use it to post.
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#260 - 2014-01-28 00:29:17 UTC
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Yay \o/ :D

Ya done good, sweetie. Cool