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Are the bonus'es broken on the Helios
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Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#21 - 2014-01-29 21:30:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Shiloh Templeton
Zhilia Mann wrote:


Don't forget the anti-exploration fit. Cloak/probe, double scramble, web, dda's & the only drone you need. I have pissed off soooooo many explorers this way. You get the loot without the annoyance of having to play the ridiculous mini game and you get to kill stuff too. Its really the best sort of exploration




Confirming that a fit like this can sneak up on a buzzard scooping loot. Made me start checking killboards when I see someone flying a helios.
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#22 - 2014-01-29 23:26:01 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Why does the helios have a combat bonus?

Ask these folks:

Taranis vs Helios
Slicer vs Helios
Arty Wolf vs Helios
Autocannon Wolf vs Helios
Harpy vs Helios
Jaguar vs Helios
Thrasher vs Helios
Sabre vs Helios

Typical Battle Helios Fit:
[Helios, ExplorationHelios]
Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

1MN Afterburner II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I

Hobgoblin II x1

Sometimes you use 2x webs if you are taking on fast targets.


Superb kill mails. Well done that truly is outstanding pvp.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2014-01-30 03:00:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Praxis Ginimic
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Praxis Ginimic wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Why does the helios have a combat bonus?

Ask these folks:

Taranis vs Helios
Slicer vs Helios
Arty Wolf vs Helios
Autocannon Wolf vs Helios
Harpy vs Helios
Jaguar vs Helios
Thrasher vs Helios
Sabre vs Helios

Typical Battle Helios Fit:
[Helios, ExplorationHelios]
Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

1MN Afterburner II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I

Hobgoblin II x1

Sometimes you use 2x webs if you are taking on fast targets.



Impressive, but wouldn't you get better results out of an imicus?


Killmails with the imicus might be more impressive, but it isn't better suited for fishing: An Imicus doesn't have a weapons bonus to guns or drones, and only 1 highslot to actually fit a weapon. It also lacks the 5th midslot, which is very important for disabling an opponent with EWAR.



The mid slot comment, I'm totally on board with but you're not really there with the weapon bonus thing. 1 bonused drone at max skill is still 3 and a half drones short of what the imicus offers.

Edit: Your list of awesomeness speaks for itself so you really have no need to defend your clearly correct ship choice.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#24 - 2014-01-30 03:05:03 UTC
Praxis Ginimic wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Praxis Ginimic wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Why does the helios have a combat bonus?

Ask these folks:

Taranis vs Helios
Slicer vs Helios
Arty Wolf vs Helios
Autocannon Wolf vs Helios
Harpy vs Helios
Jaguar vs Helios
Thrasher vs Helios
Sabre vs Helios

Typical Battle Helios Fit:
[Helios, ExplorationHelios]
Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

1MN Afterburner II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I

Hobgoblin II x1

Sometimes you use 2x webs if you are taking on fast targets.



Impressive, but wouldn't you get better results out of an imicus?


Killmails with the imicus might be more impressive, but it isn't better suited for fishing: An Imicus doesn't have a weapons bonus to guns or drones, and only 1 highslot to actually fit a weapon. It also lacks the 5th midslot, which is very important for disabling an opponent with EWAR.



The mid slot comment, I'm totally on board with but you're not really there with the weapon bonus thing. 1 bonused drone at max skill is still 3 and a half drones short of what the imicus offers.


1 bonused drone == 1.5 regular drones.
Imicus == 4 drones
That's a 2.5 drone difference.

But turret damage on the Helios is 95 dps, vs only 30 from the drone. In short, the turrets provide a substantial part of the helios DPS.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#25 - 2014-01-30 21:43:14 UTC
Impressive kills.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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