Ships & Modules

Hello everyone!

I'm a very new pilot and I'm really loving the idea of the themes behind the Sansha and the Blood Raiders. I'm currently working on trying to be able to run pirate missions so that I can build up to flying either Sansha or Blood Raider ships. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on mission running setups for the frigates of both those factions for a very new player. :)

Thank you all for any info and suggestions! :D :D

If u are new player definitely stick to standard ships and try to get to battlecruiser ASAP so u can run lvl 3-4 missions.
there is no point in running lvl 1-2 missions => frigs are useless for PVE.

Factions frigs and their bonuses are ment for PVP anyway.

Also i dont recomend flying any faction skill unless u have all related skills to lvl 5.

Indeed. And you should take that attitude to the Domain region and I will show you what the Succubus can do xD.

I would take that as both a threat and an offer >:)

Play the game the way you want to play it, but be aware paying 60-90mil ISK for a faction frig hull and getting it killed the first time you take it out usually makes you enjoy the game less... especially since you could have fit out 50 regular frigs for that price...T2 fit...with rigs...

I love the Phantasm and the Nightmare...and I can afford to take say 15 phantasms into combat or 3 nightmares before i run out of ISK...but for the same money I can field 50 T2 fit battle-cruisers...and a few BSs...

Since all I do is pew pew and that tends to lead to losing ships...I would rather fly the 50 BCs for a year than make isk

It was more of a promise. In dying you would hopefully learn a valuable lesson so the next time you'd die in a subtly different way.

Have fun and live up to your corp name, one of three things will happen but all will be fun:

1) You'll burn out from having to rebuild that pile of isk after each loss
2) You'll decide that you will learn more in cheaper hulls (after all the first few dozen engagements are really a learning experience, if you can go out every day you learn more than if you can go out and fight once a week)
3) You'll become *really* good at making ISK (several ways to do that) and you'll play things your way and get every naysayer to shut their trap

Whatever you do, have fun.

Anyone else see a problem here?

This is pretty much the minimal fit I'd ever put on a Succubus, even for PvE:

[Succubus, L1 fun]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

1MN Afterburner II
Medium Shield Extender II
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II
Invulnerability Field II

Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I

Yes, solid T2. At least get your skills up that far before trying it.

Honestly, neither the Succubus nor the Cruor are all that great. The Succubus is slow and just doesn't have the gank to really bring it. The Cruor has pretty much no PvE use, which relegates it to niche PvP (usually to kill other shiny faction frigates).

But hey, enjoy the game your way.

Training up to fly battlecruisers as fast as possible will leave a hole in your various fitting skills. Flying a BC doesn't mean anything if you can't fit medium weapons, shields, reppers, etc. Flying a, for a new player, "shiny" Harbinger, doesn't really matter much if you can't realisticly engage other BC's or cruisers.

The same is true for lvl 3-4 missions. If your in a group, no problem. Solo, a new player is likely to die, very fast. Plus you start to see elite frigate/cruisers that that use various Ewar. i.e. Jam, web, point, etc,.

Listen to everyone that says, "don't go for the expensive faction ships, wait and get experience in smaller cheaper ships." Most faction frigates have no real use in PVE and limited PVP roles. Make sure you can T2 fit any faction fit ship you decide to get before you take it out, as people will try and kill you for the shiny kill mail. Eventually, you will die, you will lose your ship, this is unavoidable.

Remember Rule #1: Don't fly anything you can't afford to lose.

You'll be much better of focusing on one race to start with.

Update!

My first frigate lvl 5 finishes training tomorrow morning. It will be Amarr Frigate 5. After that I will work on some capacitor skills and laser skills. Then I will be going back to Minmatar do to similar. I figured once I get the main support skills out of the way then getting each frigate to 5 is the next no brainer. Once I have them, I can fly them with whatever tank they deserve and whatever weapon system works for them.

I hope to be able to go exploring lawless space this weekend!