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Zleon Leigh
#1 - 2011-11-09 03:07:00 UTC
Looking at putting up a POS in .5 space. Looking for a reference fit for research. Suggestions?

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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#2 - 2011-11-09 05:41:19 UTC
Tower + Mobile Labs or Adv Mobile Labs

If wardec'd, use a wardec removal alliance or just take everything down.

(Now, if you're serious about keeping your moon position - then you need to go with a large tower with a mix of guns, ECM, tackle, spare offensive modules along with a few POS gunners, plus a dozen friends who can come help drive off an attacking fleet. 60-80 ECM modules on a large tower is not unheard of, and you leave them anchored but offline until wardec'd. But ECM alone won't save a tower.)
TrollFace TrololMcFluf
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2011-11-09 05:54:20 UTC
Caldari large tower + 12-14 shield hards + however many ECM bats that fit after that is what you want for hsec dont even bother with guns or tackle just resists and ECM

It wont save your pos by a long shot but i dont know anyone that would want to even try and siege a caldari large tower with that kinda resists and ECM and those that would do it would charge a fortune
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#4 - 2011-11-09 06:51:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
So many people just want a fit tossed in their face, but that's hard to do since every POS is used differently. If all you want is a fit, rather than to learn the how's and why's of fitting, then I can't help ya, nor to be honest do I really care to.

However, if you do actually want to learn something, start by reading the following thread. Every post. It is well worth the time. POS Setups: Jump Bridge/Cyno Jam/Reactions, Moon Mine/Mining, Labs, WH

Heck, you'll even find my POS fit in there along with a shortcut of how to quickly layout a large in an effective manner. EDIT: I forgot that I've since beefed-up my POS with extra hardeners in case I lose some modules. My current war setup.

Trivia: the last post to the old S & I forum was in that thread, and by me Big smile
MIRMIDON
V0y4g3rs
#5 - 2011-11-09 10:33:16 UTC  |  Edited by: MIRMIDON
Starting with a simple mobile laboratory will do the job for early/starting researching projects.Adding an advanced molile lab, will expand your available slots if you plan on more time consuming (above 24h batches) copying jobs.

The tower type selection is the importand one.Bear in mind here weather you plan to run jobs for more than 6months/or above a year. Go for a small caldari of your plans are for months and for dread guristas for in the long run fuel consumtion costs makes the difference (either you mine yourself or not). Also a serious researcher considers manufacturing, hence you should consider a couple of assebly arrays and one or two corporate hangar arrays. For discretion add a ship maintenacen bay for storing haulers and couple of fast fragates or whatever suits you.Those last espacialy if you plan to ancor at a stationless system.

I would also recomend MyPOS from Cassandra's light. A very handy tool for you to experiment and/or monitor various POS fittings and plan ahead future configurations.


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Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2011-11-09 12:07:18 UTC
TrollFace TrololMcFluf wrote:
Caldari large tower + 12-14 shield hards + however many ECM bats that fit after that is what you want for hsec dont even bother with guns or tackle just resists and ECM


Actually I generally anchor quite a few more ECM batteries than the ones which just "fit" as they are knocked out by attackers I just bring more of them online.

POS warfare is a lot like siege warfare, if you setup a POS right you'll buy time, but you really are not going to defeat any but the most unprepared and/or incompetent of attackers merely with a POS.

What you then do with the time you've got, is what will determine the fate of your POS.
Lauren Hellfury
Super Happy Awesome Fun Times
#7 - 2011-11-09 13:23:43 UTC
If you just want to do a bit of research then a Caldari Small tower with 3x mobile labs will work for you. Keep the research durations short and if you get war-dec'd then just pull it all down.

If you're also into manufacturing then you can fit an assembly array or two (depending on type) on it as well.

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Jenn Makanen
Doomheim
#8 - 2011-11-09 13:38:45 UTC
If it's for research, try to find a moon free in a system with a station. Any station.

You don't want to store your BPOs in the station. You want to have an office in that station and use Scientific Networking
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#9 - 2011-11-09 14:22:52 UTC
Cyniac wrote:

Actually I generally anchor quite a few more ECM batteries than the ones which just "fit" as they are knocked out by attackers I just bring more of them online.


Same. The general strategy for hi-sec towers planning on active defense is:

Peace: Labs online, keep jobs to a week or less, maybe online a few guns that only use PG. Lots and lots of stuff anchored but not online (hardeners, ECM, more guns, tackle, webs). Don't forget to load ammo into the guns. Prep a few people with the POS gunnery skill, make sure they can control at least 4 batteries.

War-Dec: Labs off, ECM/guns/tackle/webs online (no hardeners yet). If the dec looks serious, empty labs, unanchor and evac them to the station. Make sure that you have POSpreys in-system or logistics ships (including armor rep for the batteries). Get a defensive fleet prepped, get your POS gunners out to the system.

Combat: As ECM / Guns get incapacitated, bring spares online. When you start running out of spare batteries, start putting the 9 or 13 shield hardeners online. Use voice comms and overview tags to call primary & secondary targets for the POS guns. Try to tackle / pop both the primary & secondary target and be ready to switch targets quickly to catch any logistic ships off-guard. Defensive fleet needs to disrupt the attackers in any way possible.

(POS batteries are cheap - most of your ISK will be tied up in labs / arrays. Evac the arrays, leave the batteries behind and active.)
Lauren Hellfury
Super Happy Awesome Fun Times
#10 - 2011-11-09 14:26:15 UTC
A quick tip on finding a moon in a station system: You can anchor a PoS at a moon that a station is located at.

Theoretical example would be that you could anchor a PoS at Jita 4-4 because the two stations at that moon are in different places to where the warp to 0 (and thus the control tower location) is.

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Zleon Leigh
#11 - 2011-11-09 17:55:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Zleon Leigh
Thanks for everyone's contributions!

Tau - I'm reading every reply of the post. Thanks! :)

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Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2011-11-09 20:58:48 UTC
Small caldari tower plus 3 mobile labs, don't **** anyone off and pick an out of the way system.

If by perchance someone does wardec you, simply unanchor it and move elsewhere once the wardec ends.