EVE General Discussion

Yes, Cyno ships should totally be immune to

Wait, no.

They have cloaks

Considering I've been doing most of my exploration in an interceptor since Rubicon... I'll say yes.

Just take the time to train subsystems and fly a t3, and you will be immune to bubbles with the right subsystems.

You think of them as exploration ships. I think of them as scouts and covert cynos, which meant they absolutely should not have bubble immunity.

Ah, well, as scouts and covert cyno operators, i see what you're getting at and that makes sense.

My reasoning on the matter was that the T2 explo ships don't really have any combat functionality, aside from dropping cynos. I still think that they should be immune.

Also, about the T3's, i would love to be using one, but this character hasn't progressed to that point yet.

Maybe i should just use an interceptor for nullsec exploration. But then, the cargo is ****** and there's no bonus to scans or hacking.

In short, for example, the Helios has a role bonus to hacking. So it's main design purpose was for hacking, not entirely combat OR scouting. Most gallente flying scouts are using the Imicus, on account of being cheap. You wouldn't necessarily spend 25mil on a Helios as a scout, knowing that scouts are usually the first to die.

Then again, if T2 explo ships were to get immunity, using them as scouts and cyno operators would probably see an increase. But is that really too much of an advantage for anyone or a disadvantage to the ones trying to kill it? I think it only really helps the explorers and by extension, the manufacturers.

Alright, that's pretty cool, but i don't have much faith in how effective is it.

I guess it's about time to find out.

Limiting them to "at most one stab" is a generally dumb idea. limiting any ship to how many stabs they can fit on it at a time is a generally dumb idea. I'm glad you don't work for CCP, lol. This game would be all ****** up. I could just see it in the description now "Warp Core Stabilizer limit: 1", lololol. and you thought bubble immunity for them was a bad idea?

Covops frigates are NOT hard to catch. Put one bubble up and bam, you catch anything that isn't a T3 with the right subsystems, interdictor, or interceptor. Train and fit a ship that locks fast and you can catch them.

Also, i don't know what gave you the idea that i'm packing my Helios with stabs. I guess you're just delusional like that. and a bit whiny, too. If i'm in nullsec, why would i bother fitting more than one stab? When they're not going to protect it from bubbles. I barely fit stabs because of the likeliness of one lone ranger with a long point. And even then, solo PvP is nearly dead, so it almost doesn't make sense to fit even the one when i could fit another nanofiber.

There is no need at all to prevent pilots from fitting all stabs if they want to, and there is no e-dishonor in fitting a scouting vessel for avoidance anyway. Thats its job.

Almost all of my kills with a taranis that has only 2 points of scram have been on scanboats with 3 points of stabs. Fitting your mids with scan modules, your lows with stabs and rigs with hacking rigs, means you don't actually have enough EHP to survive being locked which self defeats 3 stabs on frigates, because stabs only protect against lock based tackle.

Anyone wanna give me a good idea of how to fit a covops for combat?

Sounds very interesting. And also how well does it do against multiple opponents? Or is it just for 1v1?