EVE General Discussion

Took me a while to get your point :D never even spoken to the OP, nor do I agree with him 100%, I just came with my 2 cents. Ship skins are cool, I want them.

As they have no effect on game balance in any way, I'd rather pay CCP for vanity pimpin mah space ships than some other player.

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thats so bloody reasonable of you dammit, cant you call me a noob or somet just to make me feel like this is the EvE online forums?

You know it will be and therefore the fancy will wear off real quick. Or,

people will skin the ships they only keep in station.

Fancy that.

Are people really zoomed in far enough the actually see their ship or anyone elses in space? Ship skins seems like something else that only you can see in station.

Exactly correct. Give this man a cigar.

CCP is paid in cash, just not by the person wanting the vanity item. More income for CCP that doesn't involve a subscription increase is GOOD!.

CCP is paid by the person that buys the PLEX with cash, because they wish to sell it for in game currency.

The person that buys the PLEX with cash gets exactly what they want for their money. They get ISK.

The person that buys the vanity item with and ISK purchased PLEX gets exactly what they want. The vanity item in question without spending their own cash to aquire it.

CCP gets exactly what they want. The get the income from the original PLEX purchase..

Not seeing a problem here.

As to what happens if people stop buying PLEX... seriously?

PLEX supplies drop, cost of PLEX raises sharply, PLEX becomes much more profitable, people buy more PLEX.

Pretty basic economy 101.

The OP has convinced himself that if CCP goes through the trouble of creating a ship-skinning system that the *only* way it could ever be added to the game is through the NeX. Apparently adding them to the LP store or just having a dropdown menu in the ship fitting window to select the skin you want isn't technically possible.

Indeed.

And why would anyone bother if me Raven was pink or not, unless they wanted to check?

So if I want to spend a plex or five on painting me Raven pink, that people might or might not notice before it's blown up.

What's the problem?

Using Aur/Plex to paint your ship says that your either completely daft, or much better than you.

Either way, it says come and kill me.

So what's the bad with that?

When you can use a custom skin, that has your alliance / corp logo on the side of it and hot babes. That is when I will buy new skins. Or whenever I get tired of staring at rust.

My appologies, in retrospect my reply sounded nastier than it was intended.



And this is where the arguments against the NeX fall short, including (respectfully) Jade's.

A few facts, read closely:

The Nex store is an intergal link between DUST industry and economy and EVE industry and economy. It is not going away. In fact, it is inevitable that it will expand.

Remember carefully why the Ishukone Scorpion was not offered through the NeX.

Players pointed out that it circumvented the player driven industrial base too much.

CCP replied "We know, this is just a test of the system as it is until we can properly implement either BPC transactions via the NeX or accept tangibles like ships, PI goods, whatever player produced items as part of the purchse price. However, since you object to this test we will cancel it until such time as we can implement the full system".

This effectively ends all arguments based on the NeX store undermining the player based industry in EVE. The only arguable points now are to what degree player industry will be involved, and will clothing items also be converted to this system (and yes, they should be).

We have already covered arguments based on "I shouldn't have to pay more than my subscription for this content", since you in fact do not. You can get your Aurum from ISK purchased PLEX, which helps the guy out thats trying to sell his cash bought PLEX for ISK, which helps out CCP by stimulating their PLEX for cash market.

So what do we have left to argue about?

Not much, other than the continual stream of people who don't understand the concept at all... but are highly upset about it.

Agreed, at least as far as the loyalty point store is concerned.

Of course, we don't know exactly what the differences are in the underlying code. Usually it's the small details that end up making something that you would think would be simple end up being stupidly complicated to actually do.

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