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Please don't get mad if ship skins are on the NeX store

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BeanBagKing
The Order of Atlas
#21 - 2011-11-09 01:36:13 UTC
Montevius Williams wrote:
Ship skin = Vanity. I have no issue at all with it being on the Nex market. If your ship is destroyed however, you need to buy a new skin. Thats my view.

Pretty much this, make them affordable and destructible and I won't have a problem with it. Well really, even if they aren't affordable I won't have a problem, I just won't buy them :P but destructibility is a must.
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#22 - 2011-11-09 01:37:55 UTC
Fionaa wrote:


Do you feel the new nebulae´s should be NeX too ? After all its just skins, it wont effect gameplay.


no, they shouldn't - they're a core part of the game

they also don't affect gameplay. just because something doesn't affect gameplay doesn't mean it should be in NeX, but something in NeX that doesn't affect gameplay is fine.


now if only they sold Logic implants in the nex, i would recommend you buy one - because your wetware sucks at it.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#23 - 2011-11-09 01:41:45 UTC
I wouldn't mind if they where on the nex store, just as long as I can buy a good amount of skins with 1 PLEX.

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2011-11-09 01:41:50 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:

If they were going to go this route they would have removed the NeX by now. They are desperate for something that players actually want to buy to put in the NeX.


Oh don't worry, I'm not naive. I know full well CCP epic fail and put ship skins in NEX. P
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2011-11-09 01:44:09 UTC  |  Edited by: DarkAegix
I am disappointed by the number of mentally disabled, NeX-hating, knee-jerk derps in this thread.

Should ship skins be on the market, then?
Well, if you want to buy a ship, whether skinned or not, prepare to open folder after folder after folder, finding the correct skin/ship you want.
Hungry Eyes
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2011-11-09 01:46:15 UTC
Denidil wrote:
Fionaa wrote:


Do you feel the new nebulae´s should be NeX too ? After all its just skins, it wont effect gameplay.


no, they shouldn't - they're a core part of the game




and ship customization isnt? XX

every other MMO includes visual customization for your avatar in your monthly fee, except for EVE
Paragon Renegade
Sebiestor Tribe
#27 - 2011-11-09 01:46:34 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
I am disappointed by the number of mentally disabled, NeX-hating, knee-jerk derps in this thread.
prepare to open folder after folder after folder, finding the correct skin/ship you want.


Oh my breaking heart

The pie is a tautology
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2011-11-09 01:46:37 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
I am disappointed by the number of mentally disabled, NeX-hating, knee-jerk derps in this thread.

Should ship skins be on the market, then?
Well, if you want to buy a ship, whether skinned or not, prepare to open folder after folder after folder, finding the correct skin/ship you want.

Hello there, DarkAegix, perhaps you could restate your point while making sense. Or explain why the only alternative to the skins being sold in the NeX is some hilariously complex manual addon that would have to be copied and pasted to various folders.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
mkint
#29 - 2011-11-09 01:46:57 UTC  |  Edited by: mkint
All NEX stuff should be destructible. Except they should come in packs of at least 100 at current prices.

I don't see a problem with it being in nex stores, as long as I can remove the new default logos for free.

It's also important to differentiate between "ship skins" and "custom paint jobs." I don't think paint jobs will be in the winter expansion. Custom paint jobs require V3 textures, and V3 is only being done for gallente and caldari in the winter. It would mean you wouldn't be able to customize your minmatar/amarr/pirate boats, which would suck, and p!ss off a lot of those pilots (even if they aren't planning on using paintjobs.)

edit: I really hope CCP is paying attention... start your prices low and raise them higher as needed. The people who bought high might feel disappointed they didn't get in at the cheap price, but the alternative is people being p!ssed off that they got ripped off as early adopters. Advertise it as an "introductory price."

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2011-11-09 01:47:12 UTC
This is what I am saving all that free AUR they gave us for.
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2011-11-09 01:47:58 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
I am disappointed by the number of mentally disabled, NeX-hating, knee-jerk derps in this thread.



You don't even have a monocle ya NEX-lovin' pussy.
Fionaa
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#32 - 2011-11-09 01:52:27 UTC
Denidil wrote:
Fionaa wrote:


Do you feel the new nebulae´s should be NeX too ? After all its just skins, it wont effect gameplay.


no, they shouldn't - they're a core part of the game

they also don't affect gameplay. just because something doesn't affect gameplay doesn't mean it should be in NeX, but something in NeX that doesn't affect gameplay is fine.


now if only they sold Logic implants in the nex, i would recommend you buy one - because your wetware sucks at it.


Calm down aldo, im just hinting at something.
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2011-11-09 01:53:07 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:

Hello there, DarkAegix, perhaps you could restate your point while making sense. Or explain why the only alternative to the skins being sold in the NeX is some hilariously complex manual addon that would have to be copied and pasted to various folders.

Perhaps there could be some kind of store which is separate from the market....
Perhaps in this amazing store we can trade-in ships for skinned versions....
Perhaps we already have this framework. The NeX store.
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#34 - 2011-11-09 01:55:55 UTC
Rumour thread.

Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together -  Fleet-Up.com
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2011-11-09 01:58:52 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:

Hello there, DarkAegix, perhaps you could restate your point while making sense. Or explain why the only alternative to the skins being sold in the NeX is some hilariously complex manual addon that would have to be copied and pasted to various folders.

Perhaps there could be some kind of store which is separate from the market....
Perhaps in this amazing store we can trade-in ships for skinned versions....
Perhaps we already have this framework. The NeX store.

None of those sentences answered my question. Also you need a monocle before I will accept your NeX-loving posts.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2011-11-09 02:02:25 UTC  |  Edited by: DarkAegix
Wacktopia wrote:
Rumour thread.

I may as well link some scattered, vague sources, right? Blink
Ship skins: http://www.eveonline.com/media/23941/bg.jpg
Ship skins in Sisi: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=31304
See post by CCP Zymurgist here: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1560099


Also, Ladie Harlot, I would like to inform you that you in fact did not ask a question.
Thank you.
Cunane Jeran
#37 - 2011-11-09 02:04:29 UTC
well either 1000 and non destructible or 100 and destructible, either way for the time invested in NeX and the whole incarna notion, it's not something that'll go away.

About the Nebula's should be NeX if ship skins are. Use your freaking head lad! Nebula's effect everyone, that's like saying you should be able to make Dodixie II a plasma planet with NeX. When NeX and ship skins is obviously a very personal change affecting only yourself.

Micro-transactions are here and here to stay, and if you don't want them then don't use them. At no point are you told YOU HAVE to do this. Boycott it if you don't want it, just don't ***** about it to those who want these things.
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2011-11-09 02:09:29 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
CCP Zymurgist


Or as I like to call him, CCP Shouldabeeninthetwentypercent.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2011-11-09 02:10:37 UTC
It's rather telling that even though players have asked for ship skins and logos since the game first started CCP only started working on it once they had a microtransaction store.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Azahni Vah'nos
Vah'nos Family
#40 - 2011-11-09 02:11:18 UTC
Okay I'll bite Mr Troll ......

Ship skins like other items in the game should be player produced. I find the NEX Store appologists like yourself extremely short sighted as to what is good for the game moving forward. Your attitude is, this doesn't affect my little piece of EVE so who gives a **** right.

CCP have chosen to belittle and marginalise any potential the items they have put in the NEX Store could have had on actual gameplay content. CCP looked to F2P games and what they were doing in their themeparks with microtransactions. At the same time conveniently ignoring that fact that EVE is a sandbox with Sub/PLEX already, but instead wanted to add what are now feature removing microtransactions on top of that rather than expanding gameplay content.

The items in the NEX could have still achieved what CCP wanted and also added gameplay benefits to the players, but instead the $500 sparkle tiger riding people and their ilk in CCP thought otherwise.

Yes CCP came very close to shitting on all the players that produced Scorpions with the Ishukone one being slated to be in the NEX Store just to see what happened. Thankfully they stopped only because someone spied it on the test server and made a forum post about it, otherwise CCP would have merrily gone ahead with it.

Nex (Cash Shop) / Aurum - removing sand from the sandbox since Incarna. Currently the only use for aurum is to buy virtual items in the in-game store, but Cockerill expects to expand its uses in the future.