Missions & Complexes

The ESS also gives out tags. So tag prices should drop.

Ok, I've read the new dev blog, about the old dev blog, which without properly specifying the full function of the unit, I can see enough to see that the maths in my previous worked example is WRONG.

ie the current arrangement would deposit roughly net neutral if I rat with an ESS and can convert at 1250, and there is a pool of isk to raid still in the ESS, which will be worth ~4m/tick to me.

ie there isn't a particularly compelling reason to not use an ESS at this point as the LP will largely cover the risk, and the isk in the thing is a bonus pool - at least unless nullsec ratting kills navy LP.

Just run missions for sisters of EVE. Your wallet will enjoy it.

Not those kind of tags. You only get tags if you "take all" from the ESS instead of using the "share" option. The share option dumps the accumulated isk into everyone's wallet appropriately (i.e. fairly.) The "take all" tags are simply markers you cash in, e.g. a "one million" tag is worth one million isk.

The LP is granted directly to you as you collect bounties. You only get LP if there's an ESS in the system.

It seems like a lot of work to get and additional 10.5% in bounties, especially when you consider that non-ESS bounties are being reduced to 95%. The LP is a nice touch, but between Navy LP stores (which is already pretty low in value,) and faction warfare, the idea of adding a flood of Navy LP from null ratting seems pretty silly.

So unless you have a lot of Navy LP, I wouldn't worry about it.

I can't really see how this is going to have a big impact, when you consider how much LP is being made with incursions and fractional warfare.

Yeah, those are crazy people.

Take me, for example. Because I want to earn those Loyalty Points to get my Navy Drake BPC, in order to build it for myself. Using minerals i refined myself. From ore I mined myself.

Crazy people. Right?

Actually, Incursions make way way less than ALL null sec ratters combined.
Consider how few people run Incursions (hundreds at one time, if there is one to run), and compare that to the 10's of thousands running null sec anom's non-stop.
FW throws more into the mix than Incursions, but even then, a much smaller percentage of the player base is involved with FW than will be ratting in null.

There is going to be a massive impact on LP in the market.

I think it should have been CONCORD LP since they are the ones who give the bounties. Either that or CCP should have made new corps with new LP stores.

I don't think anyone has anything to worry about, the ESS idea is so dumb alliances are already banning it's use as a matter of policy, not just because it attracts neuts to ratting ground, but because it stands to create drama among alliance mates.

I was commenting on his standard BS about "10s of thousands of people doing anoms". There is no such thing, especially considering that there are only 40-50,000 charatcers in all of null sec at any given time. Wasn't talking about the LP.

But, it won't be that much LP being made anyway. Alliances are already banning friendly use of the ESS because of it's potential to cause drama among corp/alliance mates. In some places the things will be kill on site (whether it's blue or otherwise).

All right, what would you say is a fair number? Half of nullsec? MTUs are practically required equipment for mission runners. Saying we hit 40m LP/day a total due to inefficiencies would still equate to ~640 medium plexes worth of LP at minmatar's T4 rate. That's actually slightly greater than minmatar's actual plex numbers yesterday, going by the ingame militia office. FW was said to kill a lot of LP stores and offers. If the ESS module gets even close to that we're going to see a splash in the markets, the only question is how big it will be.



*It should also be noted the other 3 factions are achieving equal or lesser results in LP/day each, due to their strategic situations. My math is not currently counting for defensive plexing inefficiencies, either.