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Me and my firends canceling Eve online subsriptions

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voetius
Grundrisse
#21 - 2014-01-20 08:19:56 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Someone probably is abusing its position in censorship.
This is important issue.

Eve just proved that is not ready for current SOV war.
CCP have to buy more servers - or change capitals and supers , and the sentry drone assist mechanic.



It's a bit more complicated than that. Just removing the drone assist mechanic would make the problem worse as instead of one person giving orders to 1000 drones you would have 200 people giving orders to 1000 drones with the consequent extra load on the server.
Xortica
Horizon Eventus
#22 - 2014-01-20 08:36:13 UTC
btw i would love to read CCP comments to HED-GP "fight" and what they going to do with game mechanic to avoid this
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#23 - 2014-01-20 08:39:54 UTC
Blobs are bad, mkey? CCP won't say it but you should read writing on the wall.

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Xortica
Horizon Eventus
#24 - 2014-01-20 08:49:41 UTC
Sarah Schneider wrote:
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Someone probably is abusing its position in censorship.
This is important issue.

Eve just proved that is not ready for current SOV war.
CCP have to buy more servers - or change capitals and supers , and the sentry drone assist mechanic.


You do realize that CCP's Tranquility server is currently the worlds largest and most powerful commercial supercomputer in existence right?

"if Skynet ever comes to pass, we'll know exactly who to blame." - Cassandra Khaw, PC Gamer, referring to Eve's Tranquility server in June 2013

Have you guys ever stop and wonder that the 'solution' to this issue is not just by slapping more processing power to the current one? CCP has already done what many have considered impossible to implement in terms of sustaining that kind of mass player activity on a single shard.


http://top500.org/list/2013/11/
there is no CCP cluster in this list
Layla Firoue
Doomheim
#25 - 2014-01-20 08:54:48 UTC
So you leave because you and your friends are terrible at capital ship warfare? LolLolLol
Would you also leave if your plan B had worked, the node had crashed and you had won the log in race?

Maybe warping in 1000 sentry domis and ordering them to empty their drone bays in an futile attempt to bring the node down had something to do with you being unable to target stuff after you landed. Maybe your complete lack of strategy had also something to do with the outcome.

If you have played for 8 years now you should be damn well accustomed as to how things work in heavy lag/Tidi and that fu**ing the grid over and then attempting to jump caps in on top is an idea of monumental stupidity.

Do not blame CCP for your own stupidity, you knew the "rules" of heavy node load and tidi and there were several solutions to bring your caps into the system and ensure they would load first since the N3/pl fleet would not go anywhere but you did not come up with that idea, which brings us back to why you are bad at cap warfare.

Also the current sov mechanics do not warrant for anyone to blue everything with a pulse and amass as much mindless drones as possible, however thats the CFC tactic since day 1 and has nothing to do with sov mechanics.

Without it the New Eden might have seen a lot more smaller wars in the south than the current big one. Yes sov mechanics need an overhaul but it´s neither CCP's "crappy" server nor their "crappy" coding but herd mentality and stupidity that let to the current situation.

Besides why cry over a few dread losses, you people are supposedly stupidly rich and this isn´t 2006.

I wonder if truly so many from the RUS/CFC side will quit does that mean EvE will be bot free soon?



Xortica
Horizon Eventus
#26 - 2014-01-20 09:10:18 UTC
Layla Firoue wrote:
So you leave because you and your friends are terrible at capital ship warfare? LolLolLol
Would you also leave if your plan B had worked, the node had crashed and you had won the log in race?

Maybe warping in 1000 sentry domis and ordering them to empty their drone bays in an futile attempt to bring the node down had something to do with you being unable to target stuff after you landed. Maybe your complete lack of strategy had also something to do with the outcome.

If you have played for 8 years now you should be damn well accustomed as to how things work in heavy lag/Tidi and that fu**ing the grid over and then attempting to jump caps in on top is an idea of monumental stupidity.

Do not blame CCP for your own stupidity, you knew the "rules" of heavy node load and tidi and there were several solutions to bring your caps into the system and ensure they would load first since the N3/pl fleet would not go anywhere but you did not come up with that idea, which brings us back to why you are bad at cap warfare.

Also the current sov mechanics do not warrant for anyone to blue everything with a pulse and amass as much mindless drones as possible, however thats the CFC tactic since day 1 and has nothing to do with sov mechanics.

Without it the New Eden might have seen a lot more smaller wars in the south than the current big one. Yes sov mechanics need an overhaul but it´s neither CCP's "crappy" server nor their "crappy" coding but herd mentality and stupidity that let to the current situation.

Besides why cry over a few dread losses, you people are supposedly stupidly rich and this isn´t 2006.

I wonder if truly so many from the RUS/CFC side will quit does that mean EvE will be bot free soon?




why node crush every time when n3\pl super almost die with our cap fleet?
btw ccp GM tell that was a bug with soverinity and n3 get claim with it, BUT they will not do anything with that. There is they politics. And i remember when SF tcu was onlining during DT because CCP do unannounced reboot, CCP remove our claim and we spend one more week to take that system.

abbadoned centry was n3\pl idea they do it first
Sarah Nalelmir
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2014-01-20 09:14:51 UTC
Xortica wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=313959&p=1
Why this topic was closed?
I was playing Eve more than 8 years. It was a good and bad time but CCP always do some fixes or try to change something. Last time i see just new cosmetic updates(say hi to new hulls and new structures like ess), HED-GP fight show ccp doesn't care they have their money. Now they can write 'Mass PVP GAME! 4r pilots in one battle!'.
CSM doesn't work. So last can i do - cancel my subscriptons, maybe ccp will be back to players, if not - too bad, but they wiil not see my money any more.
Server works fine (c) ccp
Sorry for bad English, it's not my native language.


Ok this is getting beyond a ******* joke now, and im starting to get really ****** off with this.

It was closed

a) because there are a million other threads on the subject so did you really need to open another
b) because the thread turned into a rant, as this one will be headed, due to people getting ****** off with all the bitching

You've played the game for 8 years, yet act like a child here ? nothing personal, I don't know you in real life, but as someone new to the game I look to older players for advice and help. You my friend are setting a bad example.

So a thread gets closed for good reason and your now gonna throw your toys out the pram and act like a spoilt kid ?

Grow the **** up
Sarah Nalelmir
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2014-01-20 09:16:54 UTC
oh and as a new player to the game you know what gets beaten into us from day 1 ?

DONT FLY WHAT YOU CANT AFFORD TO REPLACE
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-01-20 09:21:03 UTC
Can I haz you and your firends stuff?
Xortica
Horizon Eventus
#30 - 2014-01-20 09:22:56 UTC
Sarah Nalelmir wrote:
Xortica wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=313959&p=1
Why this topic was closed?
I was playing Eve more than 8 years. It was a good and bad time but CCP always do some fixes or try to change something. Last time i see just new cosmetic updates(say hi to new hulls and new structures like ess), HED-GP fight show ccp doesn't care they have their money. Now they can write 'Mass PVP GAME! 4r pilots in one battle!'.
CSM doesn't work. So last can i do - cancel my subscriptons, maybe ccp will be back to players, if not - too bad, but they wiil not see my money any more.
Server works fine (c) ccp
Sorry for bad English, it's not my native language.


Ok this is getting beyond a ******* joke now, and im starting to get really ****** off with this.

It was closed

a) because there are a million other threads on the subject so did you really need to open another
b) because the thread turned into a rant, as this one will be headed, due to people getting ****** off with all the bitching

You've played the game for 8 years, yet act like a child here ? nothing personal, I don't know you in real life, but as someone new to the game I look to older players for advice and help. You my friend are setting a bad example.

So a thread gets closed for good reason and your now gonna throw your toys out the pram and act like a spoilt kid ?

Grow the **** up


just calm down.
I help a lot of new pilots for this 8 years, but now it's broken, i can't see another way to tell it to CCP and new players who read ''MAss PVP" and , 'you can change everything' . You can just spend your time looking your enemy shooting you and you can't do anything. But 'server works fine' (c)
Xortica
Horizon Eventus
#31 - 2014-01-20 09:23:42 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Can I haz you and your firends stuff?

no, you can't
Xortica
Horizon Eventus
#32 - 2014-01-20 09:25:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Xortica
Sarah Nalelmir wrote:
oh and as a new player to the game you know what gets beaten into us from day 1 ?

DONT FLY WHAT YOU CANT AFFORD TO REPLACE

I can replace it, problem is not replacing, problem - game mechanic is broken and CCP doesn't do anything with that
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2014-01-20 09:37:59 UTC
Xortica wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=313959&p=1
Why this topic was closed?
I was playing Eve more than 8 years. It was a good and bad time but CCP always do some fixes or try to change something. Last time i see just new cosmetic updates(say hi to new hulls and new structures like ess), HED-GP fight show ccp doesn't care they have their money. Now they can write 'Mass PVP GAME! 4r pilots in one battle!'.
CSM doesn't work. So last can i do - cancel my subscriptons, maybe ccp will be back to players, if not - too bad, but they wiil not see my money any more.
Server works fine (c) ccp
Sorry for bad English, it's not my native language.



Your side was stupid. Everyoen knows it, even you. You shoudl have logged out the domis jsut before jumping the dreads.. But noo.. you TRIED to collapse the node.


Do not blame CCP on this. Blame your diplomats that prefer power crreep and huge coalitions isntead of an interestign 0.0 with dozens of independent entities like it was 7 years ago.


Your leaders fault, not CCP. Stop group huggins like carebears Gnus that cannot stand to live by their own strenght


The fault is ENTIRELY from the carebearish thinking of your coalition leaders.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2014-01-20 09:40:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Kagura Nikon
Xortica wrote:
Sarah Schneider wrote:
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Someone probably is abusing its position in censorship.
This is important issue.

Eve just proved that is not ready for current SOV war.
CCP have to buy more servers - or change capitals and supers , and the sentry drone assist mechanic.


You do realize that CCP's Tranquility server is currently the worlds largest and most powerful commercial supercomputer in existence right?

"if Skynet ever comes to pass, we'll know exactly who to blame." - Cassandra Khaw, PC Gamer, referring to Eve's Tranquility server in June 2013

Have you guys ever stop and wonder that the 'solution' to this issue is not just by slapping more processing power to the current one? CCP has already done what many have considered impossible to implement in terms of sustaining that kind of mass player activity on a single shard.


http://top500.org/list/2013/11/
there is no CCP cluster in this list



\His wordign is COMMERCIAL. All the top 500 are military , University, Government institution or Research machines. That do not need to be cost efficient.

Anyway the info on tranq is outdated, I tused to be one of the largest Cluster sin EUROPE like 7 years ago. But the list advances FAST.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Xortica
Horizon Eventus
#35 - 2014-01-20 09:43:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Xortica
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Xortica wrote:
Sarah Schneider wrote:
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Someone probably is abusing its position in censorship.
This is important issue.

Eve just proved that is not ready for current SOV war.
CCP have to buy more servers - or change capitals and supers , and the sentry drone assist mechanic.


You do realize that CCP's Tranquility server is currently the worlds largest and most powerful commercial supercomputer in existence right?

"if Skynet ever comes to pass, we'll know exactly who to blame." - Cassandra Khaw, PC Gamer, referring to Eve's Tranquility server in June 2013

Have you guys ever stop and wonder that the 'solution' to this issue is not just by slapping more processing power to the current one? CCP has already done what many have considered impossible to implement in terms of sustaining that kind of mass player activity on a single shard.


http://top500.org/list/2013/11/
there is no CCP cluster in this list



\His wordign is COMMERCIAL. All the top 500 are military , University or Research machines. That do not need to be cost efficient.

Anyway the info on tranq is outdated, I tused to be one of the largest Cluster sin EUROPE like 7 years ago. But the list advances FAST.

I say again. CCP servers are good, Eve code is awful and game mechanic is brocken, and CCP know it but enjoy you new structures.

When jita server is full you get message - pls wait or something. There was no message about who first enter system and load grid - win
Tebizla
#36 - 2014-01-20 09:46:07 UTC
Xortica wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=313959&p=1
Why this topic was closed?
I was playing Eve more than 8 years. It was a good and bad time but CCP always do some fixes or try to change something. Last time i see just new cosmetic updates(say hi to new hulls and new structures like ess), HED-GP fight show ccp doesn't care they have their money. Now they can write 'Mass PVP GAME! 4r pilots in one battle!'.
CSM doesn't work. So last can i do - cancel my subscriptons, maybe ccp will be back to players, if not - too bad, but they wiil not see my money any more.
Server works fine (c) ccp
Sorry for bad English, it's not my native language.


Just 1 more thing ...

Can I have your stuff?

Obviously not a forum / spy / market alt ...
Xortica
Horizon Eventus
#37 - 2014-01-20 09:47:26 UTC
Tebizla wrote:
Xortica wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=313959&p=1
Why this topic was closed?
I was playing Eve more than 8 years. It was a good and bad time but CCP always do some fixes or try to change something. Last time i see just new cosmetic updates(say hi to new hulls and new structures like ess), HED-GP fight show ccp doesn't care they have their money. Now they can write 'Mass PVP GAME! 4r pilots in one battle!'.
CSM doesn't work. So last can i do - cancel my subscriptons, maybe ccp will be back to players, if not - too bad, but they wiil not see my money any more.
Server works fine (c) ccp
Sorry for bad English, it's not my native language.


Just 1 more thing ...

Can I have your stuff?

no you can't
Alice Ituin
Doomheim
#38 - 2014-01-20 09:50:44 UTC
Your leadership made stupid mistakes and lost - deal with it!
It is well known that big sentry fleets lag the server and you decided to bring 1500 domis. -.-
Had you logged off your lag fleet before jumping in your dreads things would have been different.
Xortica
Horizon Eventus
#39 - 2014-01-20 09:53:27 UTC
Alice Ituin wrote:
Your leadership made stupid mistakes and lost - deal with it!
It is well known that big sentry fleets lag the server and you decided to bring 1500 domis. -.-
Had you logged off your lag fleet before jumping in your dreads things would have been different.


So carriers with centry - it's not lagged. but our dominixes - do? again who first get in system - win?
Tebizla
#40 - 2014-01-20 09:58:13 UTC
Xortica wrote:
Tebizla wrote:
Xortica wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=313959&p=1
Why this topic was closed?
I was playing Eve more than 8 years. It was a good and bad time but CCP always do some fixes or try to change something. Last time i see just new cosmetic updates(say hi to new hulls and new structures like ess), HED-GP fight show ccp doesn't care they have their money. Now they can write 'Mass PVP GAME! 4r pilots in one battle!'.
CSM doesn't work. So last can i do - cancel my subscriptons, maybe ccp will be back to players, if not - too bad, but they wiil not see my money any more.
Server works fine (c) ccp
Sorry for bad English, it's not my native language.


Just 1 more thing ...

Can I have your stuff?

no you can't


But why ... Is it stuck in R3P0?

Obviously not a forum / spy / market alt ...