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Appeal to CCP and all players (based on what had happened in HED-GP)

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Mike Tortura
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#101 - 2014-01-20 11:57:22 UTC
Sweet, sweet Tears.
Ohotnic 69
Red Cold Chili Banderlogs Academy
Silent Company
#102 - 2014-01-20 12:03:39 UTC
Bobbechk wrote:
Privyet Stalin here

NO BACK DOWN, NO RETREAT YOU ARE CONTINUE CYNO IN DREAD TO HED-STALINGRADSKI UNTIL THE CITY IS RECAPTURE

ANY TRAITORS CAUGHT JUMP TO STAIN OR TRY TO UNSUB WILL BE HUNTED BY KGB AS FILTHY DOGS

The glorious Soviet Socialist republic shall prevail

U wrong man. Not only russian ded in HED-Jp. May be u feer-that bug fixed ? Go Fight to the Konora man)) GlLol
Dear CCp please work on it~+1
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#103 - 2014-01-20 12:03:55 UTC
Qweasdy wrote:
Sooooo... umad bro?


I think he mad bro


So what did you loose, titan/super..... I think CCP should be like 'MERICA' on this occasion and not give into terrorist demands!

If your threats make CCP reimburse all your losses, whats to stop the next guy QQ raging and demanding sov of a system or anything for that matter. Many alliances have huge numbers and if their leader demands - eg goons and mitani - who knows what they will get if a president is set by this 1 HED-GP QQ battle.

I do however agree something needs to be done with tidi and lag, but unfortunately this game is over 10 years old and the netcode isn't optimized for modern systems/servers. As such a whole new eve game would need to be compiled to fix these issues, which just wont happen

Dont just [u]think[/u] outside the box, [u]Live[/u] outside of it...

Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#104 - 2014-01-20 12:06:56 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
OP - Transfer me a some sov and I'll start to care.

Oh wait... No I won't.




It is funny how the spazos that wont let anyone else even get a start in null sec now expect everyone feel sympathy for them.

Maybe 1/2 the null sec players quitting Eve is exactly what Eve needs.




Except that they don't. What happens is that stupid humans do the same they do for hundreds of years. They put everyone of a group into a single pot, ignoring that of several thousand people have a different opinion. You believing that every goon represents his alliance has nothing to do with actual reality... as you can see for yourself.


Goon haters are far worse than goons themselves. It's funny that the group of goon haters acts far less individually. ^^

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Skia Aumer
Planetary Harvesting and Processing LLC
#105 - 2014-01-20 12:11:15 UTC
Lucas Rutherford wrote:
I get that you (CFC/RUS) are upset at the loss of so many dreads, I honestly get that.

No you dont.
That's not about the fact that they were lost. It's about how they were lost. During the whole battle, guns cycled 4-5 times max, and it's for those 50% who were lucky to load the grid. Doomsdays cycled 4 times, too.

Lucas Rutherford wrote:
N3/PL have found a counter to blobbing and that is superior ships.

Superior ships?! Sides had:
600 dreads + 100 carriers for CFC/RUSRUS
vs
600 carriers + 100 dreads for PL/N3
Titans and Moms were on grid for PL, and were ready to jump for CFC. They didnt jump because it was too much of a lag.
Now for the numbers.
Do you say that 600 carriers are superior to 600 dreads or what?

Lucas Rutherford wrote:
If you want to win in cap warfare blobbing is no longer the answer. You will have to beat caps with caps.

And how do you beat blobbing cap?
And again, RUS/CFC brought caps. The dreads, and some carriers.
But the dreads were useless, because of the lags.
dan Rotsuda
Siberian Alpha Fleet
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#106 - 2014-01-20 12:44:29 UTC
CCP, pls, try to make good game! Not like now! Fix it, pls!
Spurty
#107 - 2014-01-20 12:45:37 UTC
Introduce paying isk to get in.

Empty wallet, you sit out

Make it cost isk based on the tidi level.

"Tidi is at 10%. Your drone boat is going to have to pay a toll of 150mill isk to jump. Accept toll?"

Problem will solve itself

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP

CroisisCZ
Anoikis Exploration
#108 - 2014-01-20 12:46:59 UTC
It seems I still dont get it or something...
So the CFC/RUS decides to drop 1k+ Domis first, then 700 caps, right to the same grid with 3k players already in and with maxed TiDi knowing what is going to happen (or at least should know) and when the inevitable happens, they turn to mass whining and now to blackmailing CCP?

Also why do you keep repeating that there is nothing deterring you from doing this? Uhm, you know, like the simple fact that the current servers cant handle that much pressure?

Oh my, you surely must be joking or completely ********.
Skia Aumer
Planetary Harvesting and Processing LLC
#109 - 2014-01-20 12:52:54 UTC
CroisisCZ wrote:
It seems I still dont get it or something...
So the CFC/RUS decides to drop 1k+ Domis first, then 700 caps, right to the same grid with 3k players already in and with maxed TiDi knowing what is going to happen (or at least should know) and when the inevitable happens, they turn to mass whining and now to blackmailing CCP?

Blackmailing is bad and stuff.
But what is you suggestion exactly to counter those 600 carriers? Sit and wait till they die in their own lags?
Inxentas Ultramar
Orde van Oranje Nassau
Evictus.
#110 - 2014-01-20 12:56:16 UTC
Wow I am really glad I am not exposed to all this. I find it truly surprising people are willing to sit through that TIDI stuff in the first place, let alone to make it worse on purpose. Seriously, kudos. I would probably have logged half an hour in, forfeiting ship and pod in favour of my sanity, a sandwich, and some progress in a random Xbox title.
CroisisCZ
Anoikis Exploration
#111 - 2014-01-20 12:58:28 UTC
Skia Aumer wrote:

Blackmailing is bad and stuff.
But what is you suggestion exactly to counter those 600 carriers? Sit and wait till they die in their own lags?


Uhm, I dont know... maybe not dropping ****load of subcaps first?
Maybe dropping your own caps and supers on a safe spot and warping them when they load the grid?
Please dont try to make yourself dumber than you really are...
The only one responsible for your debacle is your FC.
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#112 - 2014-01-20 12:59:21 UTC
Skia Aumer wrote:
CroisisCZ wrote:
It seems I still dont get it or something...
So the CFC/RUS decides to drop 1k+ Domis first, then 700 caps, right to the same grid with 3k players already in and with maxed TiDi knowing what is going to happen (or at least should know) and when the inevitable happens, they turn to mass whining and now to blackmailing CCP?

Blackmailing is bad and stuff.
But what is you suggestion exactly to counter those 600 carriers? Sit and wait till they die in their own lags?



sometimes you cant do anything, its situations like hed or f4r when enemy set up on targen hours ago with an unbeatable blob of whatever.go away and look for the next opportunity to fight, hed isnt the only place in eve you know
M1k3y Koontz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#113 - 2014-01-20 12:59:40 UTC  |  Edited by: M1k3y Koontz
Terri Mk4 wrote:
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Jita/amarr?
Mission hubs probably will be have bigger effect.
You have my support.

This is not about reimbursement - it is about FIXING issue by CCP.
Thing that happened in HED will be in every station or important system starting from now on.

Capitals and supers are broken - when it comes to current capabilities of EVE servers.
900 n3 capitals and supers that was in HED can be only responded with a bigger fleet - and EVE just proved that it is not ready for this.
CCP have to be aware that this is not some issue that might show up in the future but something that IS happening right now.


this is a good post which almost drowns in the slander and drivel from one specific side.

It gets right at the core of the problem, which is not sov: it’s that once a critical mass of caps/scpas/titans is assembled in one place, the required counter would be too much to crash the server. Therefore such a capital blob is pretty much invincible with the current game performance restraints. Great game design!


Critical mass applies to subcap blobs as well. By cramming 3000 Domis into a system nobody will be able to jump in enough ships to counter them without blackscreening.

Blaming capitals is nonsense, an excuse used by a coalition that won't counter properly. (Cynoing 300 Dreads AT ZERO on 900 capitals after jumping 1000+ subcaps into system is NOT out you counter!)

How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp.

Nyan Lafisques
Into the Ether
WE FORM V0LTA
#114 - 2014-01-20 13:01:24 UTC
Skia Aumer wrote:
CroisisCZ wrote:
It seems I still dont get it or something...
So the CFC/RUS decides to drop 1k+ Domis first, then 700 caps, right to the same grid with 3k players already in and with maxed TiDi knowing what is going to happen (or at least should know) and when the inevitable happens, they turn to mass whining and now to blackmailing CCP?

Blackmailing is bad and stuff.
But what is you suggestion exactly to counter those 600 carriers? Sit and wait till they die in their own lags?


CFC/RUS side had 100+ Titans, 220+ Supers and 700+ dreads, at least those are the numbers from the last -A- update on HED-GP, so I think that almost alone would have done it...
Prince Kobol
#115 - 2014-01-20 13:09:31 UTC
Skia Aumer wrote:
CroisisCZ wrote:
It seems I still dont get it or something...
So the CFC/RUS decides to drop 1k+ Domis first, then 700 caps, right to the same grid with 3k players already in and with maxed TiDi knowing what is going to happen (or at least should know) and when the inevitable happens, they turn to mass whining and now to blackmailing CCP?

Blackmailing is bad and stuff.
But what is you suggestion exactly to counter those 600 carriers? Sit and wait till they die in their own lags?


You could of just used your caps (of which both CFC and RUS claim you had more) from the start.

You had plenty of other options, different ships and tactics but instead you decided in bringing 1000's of Sentry Domi's to try and crash the node before the ihub was taken down knowing that would of most likely saved the system and prove a point that drones are the main reason for causing lag and crashing nodes.

When that didn't work you decided to to try and bridge 700 dreads on grid with thousands of other ships + drones when the server was maxed Tidi and already lagging instead of bridging them to a safe sport and allowing them to load grid first.

Instead all you succeeded doing was making yourself look like noobs and compounded the issues by coming and crying on the forums about unfair it is.

You then raised the level of your stupidity by threatening to quit lol.

CM 6unk
Perkone
Caldari State
#116 - 2014-01-20 13:23:48 UTC
CroisisCZ wrote:
Skia Aumer wrote:

Blackmailing is bad and stuff.
But what is you suggestion exactly to counter those 600 carriers? Sit and wait till they die in their own lags?


Uhm, I dont know... maybe not dropping ****load of subcaps first?
Maybe dropping your own caps and supers on a safe spot and warping them when they load the grid?
Please dont try to make yourself dumber than you really are...
The only one responsible for your debacle is your FC.


ahahaah lol. pls dont writhe about pvp. go farm yours 4 lvl. WARP where ? clo/dreads in to bubles ? outside from optimal.
lol
CroisisCZ
Anoikis Exploration
#117 - 2014-01-20 13:28:34 UTC
Heh, with the exception of CFC and RUS grunts everyone seem to agree that it was a predictable outcome and that it was caused by CFC/RUS...

Instead of trying to blame CCP for your own mistakes, you should congratulate them on a job well done.
I mean it for real, the simple fact that the server didnt crash with 4000 players trying their best to kill it is a great achievement by CCP.
On the other hand, it is surely understandable that you cry now that your "tactics" of crashing nodes and sweeping enemies scattered all over the system is no longer viable...
Once again, great work CCP, keep it up.
Bobbechk
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#118 - 2014-01-20 13:31:20 UTC
CM 6unk wrote:
CroisisCZ wrote:
Skia Aumer wrote:

Blackmailing is bad and stuff.
But what is you suggestion exactly to counter those 600 carriers? Sit and wait till they die in their own lags?


Uhm, I dont know... maybe not dropping ****load of subcaps first?
Maybe dropping your own caps and supers on a safe spot and warping them when they load the grid?
Please dont try to make yourself dumber than you really are...
The only one responsible for your debacle is your FC.


ahahaah lol. pls dont writhe about pvp. go farm yours 4 lvl. WARP where ? clo/dreads in to bubles ? outside from optimal.
lol



The funniest part was thinking 700 close-range dreads was a good idea to start with, even if they had loaded fine 90% would have been out of optimal to the primaries at any given time...
CroisisCZ
Anoikis Exploration
#119 - 2014-01-20 13:32:36 UTC
CM 6unk wrote:

ahahaah lol. pls dont writhe about pvp. go farm yours 4 lvl. WARP where ? clo/dreads in to bubles ? outside from optimal.
lol


Sorry to disappoint you but Im not a HS bear... nor affraid to use my main to post unlike you P
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
#120 - 2014-01-20 13:38:46 UTC
too late for a TL; DR?

wumbo