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Appeal to CCP and all players (based on what had happened in HED-GP)

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Silent Nightingale
Wing-Holding
SOLAR WING.
#1 - 2014-01-19 23:51:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Silent Nightingale
Dear CCP,


Eve Online is а MMORPG, the main advantage of which is declared to be the chance of taking part in large-scale battles with thousands of ships fighting in one system. Not long ago there was a battle in HED-GP and lots of pilots had prepared their ships, looking forward to have much fun that day. That battle was supposed to be a culmination of a long war between the leading claim alliances. But instead of that they had to face terrible lags and infernal TD because of your inability to provide the stable functioning of your servers. Both sides – those who killed and those who lost ships there are highly disappointed with what was going on and what they have got. It was not a fair battle - everything that happened there had nothing to do with game principles and mechanics, and it has no logical explanation.
Moreover, those pilots who had lost expensive ships in lags due to the technical problems on your side haven’t received any reimbursement and it is a demonstration of your injustice and total negligence towards common players. You provided reimbursement in similar cases but now you provide us with nothing else but excuses, which is obviously not enough. We asked to fix lags, but you either did nothing or suggested some partial solution which didn’t fix the problem in general. We were patient and we used to put up with it, but it was the last straw that broke the camel’s back.
We are an independent group of people who cares for this game. A small group, but as soon as this message is posted on all eve-forums in all languages that we speak you will see how many people will be eager to join us. And we want you to start serious work on the technical problems you have now immediately. We want you to inform all the players about the changes and modifications that you are going to introduce in the nearest future to fix the lags and we need to know the time when it they will be embodied.
Besides we demand reimbursement for all the ships killed in that period of time as a result of the system failures. And we want you to provide pilots with new ships or isks if it happens again. If a ship was lost not because of a pilot’s mistake or poor pvp skill, but as a result of a technical problem on your side - it is your fault and you must recompense for it. We spent our time, isks and efforts in game to gain those ships in an honest and lawful way and no one will put up with the fact of losing them because of game defects.

If this message will have no effect on you and you ignore our words as you used to do before in 3 days we will do the following:

1) We will deactivate most of our accounts and stop buying plexes from the official site. Some of us have already got rid of their accounts and is just a beginning - there will be much more and soon. All secondary carebear or cyno accounts that are not really important for us to play the game will be frozen until the matter is settled. We will ask all our friends and accomplices to do the same.

2) We will take our ships to high-sec and send massive fleets to such systems as Amarr, Jita or Dodixie to take part in wardecs and share all the fascination of TD and lags with those pilots who do not take part in claim wars. We doubt it will make them feel happy and soon they will either leave the game or support our ideas.

3) We will ask talented people, who have played a lot and know this game well to write a number of surveys and to make a number of video clips in different languages showing what the liner side of the game – the td, the lags, the technical imperfection of Eve Online and the proves of your unfair and careless attitude towards common players. These videos and surveys will be posted on every single game forum all over the net, under every your commercial to let the new players know what they will really get instead of fun that they see on your trailers. We will let them understand that for you all the players are not more than a source of income and if they face problems you will do nothing but apologize. Bad fame spreads quickly, but it will take years to get rid of it. And most people prefer to trust real gamers not trailers. If they see what really happens in multi-player battles, the “chess-shooter” - you can be sure they will give up the idea of playing Eve.

The number of new players will fall, a number of old pilots will leave and it will affect you income and make you pay attention to these problems. We will wait for 3 days to see your first steps and your willingness to start a constructive dialogue with the players’ community. There were plenty of suggestions from other players in different topics, so we do not doubt you will find some good ideas among them. Show your respect to our needs and claims. If you start work and make up for the unjust losses we are not going to escalate the conflict. But if not, you will leave us no choice and we can’t see any other way of drawing your attention. We have little to lose now, because we have lost any interest to play this game.

Dear pilots

If you care for what is happening, if you are fed up with the lags, show your solidarity by giving likes to the topic and adding your comments and proposals. If you are ready to help us in any way tell us what you can do. Let the developers see that it is not a couple of whinning pilots but the opinion of the majority. They won’t be able to ignore it. We must do something to get what we deserve – fun and fair play.

Please, repost this text to your game forums and give a link to this topic.
fukier
Brave Collective
#2 - 2014-01-19 23:57:44 UTC
huh?
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box.
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-01-19 23:59:13 UTC
We already have a thread for this, several in fact. Why make yet another?
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-01-19 23:59:20 UTC
That's really bad readable.

Correct your paragraphs.


Thanks!

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-01-20 00:00:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Angelica Dreamstar
Marlona Sky wrote:
We already have a thread for this, several in fact. Why make yet another?
Because it's the concentrated effort of the same person?


Ooooor the nullbears are slowly taking over the forums .........................

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Silent Nightingale
Wing-Holding
SOLAR WING.
#6 - 2014-01-20 00:14:43 UTC
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
That's really bad readable.

Correct your paragraphs.


Thanks!


I tried, but for some reason I can't,
Sorry if there are misprints or mistakes, English is a foreign language for me.
Qweasdy
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-01-20 00:16:28 UTC
Sooooo... umad bro?

This is a terrible thread. As such, it's locked. - CCP Falcon

Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-01-20 00:19:44 UTC
Silent Nightingale wrote:
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
That's really bad readable.

Correct your paragraphs.


Thanks!


I tried, but for some reason I can't,
Sorry if there are misprints or mistakes, English is a foreign language for me.

Did you hit the character limit?

That would explain why you can't press ENTER, if that's what you meant.


It might not even hurt to shorten it a bit ... XD

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#9 - 2014-01-20 00:19:54 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
We already have a thread for this, several in fact. Why make yet another?


That's an easy question to answer. These people think that they have something "special" to say. They think what they have to say is so vastly more important than anything the other hundreds of people that have already weighed in on this have to say.

Their input, while certainly valuable, is certainly NOT valuable enough for yet another thread about the same damn thing.

Roll

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Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-01-20 00:21:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Angelica Dreamstar
The few lines I've glanced over tell me that you're trying to blackmail CCP.

Quote:
3) We will ask talented people, who have played a lot and know this game well to ... showing what the liner side of the game – the td, the lags, the technical imperfection of Eve Online and the proves of your unfair and careless attitude towards common players. These videos and surveys will be posted on every single game forum, under every your commercial to let the new players know what they will really get instead of fun that they see on your trailers.



That will work. Cool

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Regam Voss
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2014-01-20 00:24:30 UTC
TLDR RUS/CFC tried to pile to many people in system, didnt work, now they gonna quit.
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-01-20 00:24:44 UTC
Quote:
2) We will take our ships to high-sec and send massive fleets to such systems as Amarr, Jita or Dodixie to share all the fascination of TD and lags with those pilots who do not take part in claim wars. We doubt it will make them feel happy and soon they will either leave the game or support our ideas.
That'll just get you banned. Cool

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#13 - 2014-01-20 00:25:23 UTC
TL:DR

Our FC's tried the impossible and rather than take blame, they shift blame to CCP and cry

Instead they could learn from their mistakes and come out stronger, but that won't happen
Bob FromMarketing
Space Marketing Department
#14 - 2014-01-20 00:26:27 UTC
Hahahaha

TL;DR
you're shutting down your RMT empire because of lag?
Auranin Enat
Domini Canos
Domini Canes
#15 - 2014-01-20 00:27:16 UTC
+
Ess Pee Wye
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2014-01-20 00:28:56 UTC
How are you going to send fleets to lag out Jita/Amarr/Dodixie if you are all unsubbed????????
Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-01-20 00:33:48 UTC
Ess Pee Wye wrote:
How are you going to send fleets to lag out Jita/Amarr/Dodixie if you are all unsubbed????????
On the upside to this ... the permabans make it unnecessary to unsub. :)

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
#18 - 2014-01-20 00:38:18 UTC
Silent Nightingale wrote:
Eve Online is a game which is а MMORPG, the main advantage of which is declared to be the chance of taking part in large-scale battles with thousands of ships fighting in one system.


Large fleet battle is only a part of EVE, mostly a marketing tool used by CCP in the past years, but not the most important. Face it, the majority of EVE players are not involved and not even intrested in such gameplay.

You'd be better to realize as soon as possible as what is "special" for you could not be so important for the rest of playerbase. In repsect of this insisting with this bully attitude "you have to do what we ask or we ruin this and that" not only make you look silly but also don't help in fixing problems.

Only help in marignalize you and increasing the idea (IMO a wrong idea) that a large part of EVE community already have about null sec: a place for crybabies, bug abusers and morons.

Beside, creating lag on purpose, as in your threats, I think is also a TOS violation.

Raylucy
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-01-20 00:39:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Raylucy
Silent Nightingale wrote:
1) We will deactivate most of our accounts and stop buying plexes from the official site. Some of us have already got rid of their accounts and is just a beginning - there will be much more and soon. All secondary carebear or cyno accounts that are not really important for us to play the game will be frozen until the matter is settled. We will ask all our friends and accomplices to do the same.

2) We will take our ships to high-sec and send massive fleets to such systems as Amarr, Jita or Dodixie to share all the fascination of TD and lags with those pilots who do not take part in claim wars. We doubt it will make them feel happy and soon they will either leave the game or support our ideas.


firstly, I shall say that threats are not really the way to go, but if that what floats your boat then so be it.

jita meets 10% tidi every weekend and almost every working day at certain times throughout the day, good luck fitting all your alts and whoever follows you in there when you have to deal with the jump in queues and doing that to amarr too? im pretty sure the suicide brigades will love that thus creating more high sec content, but word of that will spread eventually and players will just wait you out.

also in addition, it wasn't ccp's fault that you and the rest of the cfc decided to try to out blob what was already in that system even with 10% tidi. it was you and those that fly with you aka lemmings.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#20 - 2014-01-20 00:49:14 UTC
Why should people in Highsec/Losec give two fucks about Nullsec?


Oh wait, we don't!

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