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Ivoryman
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#101 - 2014-01-19 05:21:21 UTC
When I caught wind this might be in the makings, I bought a few hundred billions worth of trit, pyer, and mex 36 hours before on the speculation something stupid like this would happen! THANK YOU ALL!! <3 Please, continue! Big smile Seriously... round 2?
Tavian Blake
WaHnSiNn IsT ReLaTiV
Wrecktical Supremacy.
#102 - 2014-01-19 05:21:49 UTC
I totally confirm with the OP... dunno what to add there.

CCP plz make Drones smaller... the Capitals hiding behind them.Roll
Toshiroma McDiesel
Lupus Draconis
The Lost Drone Society
#103 - 2014-01-19 05:34:58 UTC
Ivoryman wrote:
When I caught wind this might be in the makings, I bought a few hundred billions worth of trit, pyer, and mex 36 hours before on the speculation something stupid like this would happen! THANK YOU ALL!! <3 Please, continue! Big smile Seriously... round 2?



I know right? To think that some of the ammo I produce might be involved...and that demand might pick up a bit to cover all that was spent, even .001%, brings a small flutter to my heart Pirate

I"m not really the Evil One, I'm just his answering service.
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#104 - 2014-01-19 05:40:10 UTC
Why you people engage in activities like this that are not fun for anyone involved is completely beyond me. And not just once, but regularly.

I made a point of staying the hell out of Null until sov was properly fixed. That was 3 years ago.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#105 - 2014-01-19 05:48:23 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Too many caps, too many caps on all sides.




infinitely respawning resources

Get rid of that and cap fleets become quit a cherished thing


and battles such as these would be followed by battles over the salvage

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#106 - 2014-01-19 06:03:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Benny Ohu wrote:
Pinky Hops wrote:
it's timers because they dictate a time and place for people to create the largest possible blobs of the largest possible stuff.

no, timers just allow the two fleets to be in the same place at the same time

No it is timers, at least in large part. Pre-timer and Pre-Cap we did really well finding each other and having fleet fights.

They were not 1000 vs 1000 because

a) there were not enough subscriptions for that

b) most important, they were not planned 24 hours ahead so that everyone could pile on with prior knowledge something was happening.

The majority of EvE pvp needs to be unplanned, natural. If spies do their job there will be big laggy battles where you disconnect and can't log back in so it still needs a fix but medium sized battles should be fun at least.

I was in HED prior to CFC arriving, at 1.5k it was not bad at all. At 3.9k it was at 1 frame every 30 seconds before my brand new high end PC locked up and I was unable to log back in.

timers suck.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#107 - 2014-01-19 06:18:05 UTC
Nooodlzs wrote:


Maybe if you jumped your caps in before 1500 subcaps they would have loaded grid, or was it a strategic ploy to once again moan about capitals.


It was terrible FC decision on CFC side that lost you those dreads blaming it on anything else is idiotic.


There was a mobile jammer.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#108 - 2014-01-19 06:20:26 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
Pinky Hops wrote:
it's timers because they dictate a time and place for people to create the largest possible blobs of the largest possible stuff.

no, timers just allow the two fleets to be in the same place at the same time

No it is timers, at least in large part. Pre-timer and Pre-Cap we did really well finding each other and having fleet fights.

They were not 1000 vs 1000 because

a) there were not enough subscriptions for that

b) most important, they were not planned 24 hours ahead so that everyone could pile on with prior knowledge something was happening.

The majority of EvE pvp needs to be unplanned, natural. If spies do their job there will be big laggy battles where you disconnect and can't log back in so it still needs a fix but medium sized battles should be fun at least.

I was in HED prior to CFC arriving, at 1.5k it was not bad at all. At 3.9k it was at 1 frame every 30 seconds before my brand new high end PC locked up and I was unable to log back in.

timers suck.


Timers are the only thing that allow you to hold space and defend it.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#109 - 2014-01-19 06:23:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Beekeeper Bob
TigerXtrm wrote:
Why you people engage in activities like this that are not fun for anyone involved is completely beyond me. And not just once, but regularly.

I made a point of staying the hell out of Null until sov was properly fixed. That was 3 years ago.


Everyone will show up for a significant fight, if they care about their space. Even knowing that you'll spend 8 hours on a 30 min fight. And living in Null beats the heck out of Highsec, or low these days.
That being said, it seems like CCP has bugged the code worse than ever, this fight reminded me of Y-2, where PL Titans jumped in late and died where they stood, never loaded. That was over 3 years ago?

I foolishly jumped in late and spent 3 hours in the warp tunnel before I saw local chat, grid never loaded. I had to log three times and reboot my computer before I finally got in, 5.5 hours after I jumped.
My Nyx was on grid for over two hours before i was actually able to pilot it....

CCP needs to shelf the fluff and garbage and do some serious work on the code before this simply gets to be too much for some people...

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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#110 - 2014-01-19 06:24:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
baltec1 wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
Pinky Hops wrote:
it's timers because they dictate a time and place for people to create the largest possible blobs of the largest possible stuff.

no, timers just allow the two fleets to be in the same place at the same time

No it is timers, at least in large part. Pre-timer and Pre-Cap we did really well finding each other and having fleet fights.

They were not 1000 vs 1000 because

a) there were not enough subscriptions for that

b) most important, they were not planned 24 hours ahead so that everyone could pile on with prior knowledge something was happening.

The majority of EvE pvp needs to be unplanned, natural. If spies do their job there will be big laggy battles where you disconnect and can't log back in so it still needs a fix but medium sized battles should be fun at least.

I was in HED prior to CFC arriving, at 1.5k it was not bad at all. At 3.9k it was at 1 frame every 30 seconds before my brand new high end PC locked up and I was unable to log back in.

timers suck.


Timers are the only thing that allow you to hold space and defend it.

Really, so how did Curse alliance and Stain alliance and all the other alliances hold their space for so long in the pre-timer era. I was in Stain Alliance back in the day and can confirm there was space holding and wars between space holding alliances without timers.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#111 - 2014-01-19 06:34:02 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Really, so how did Curse alliance and Stain alliance and all the other alliances hold their space for so long in the pre-timer era. I was in Stain Alliance back in the day and can confirm there was space holding and wars between space holding alliances without timers.


There was a fraction of the people back then.

Today we have capital blobs that can grind down 100+ systems in as little as a single weekend.
Apocryphal Noise
The Harpooner's Rest
#112 - 2014-01-19 06:36:42 UTC
Mr LaboratoryRat wrote:
Blue standings vs another corp/Alliance should cost isk. More blues = more tax.

Thats all im saying, think about it.



Stupid. We've been over this since the dawn of time, any sort of artificially limiting system on alliance size or blue lists will be circumvented by players. The CFC for example, let's say standings didn't exist. Turn on alliance column in overview, do not shoot any of the ~10 alliances in the CFC. Wow, that was hard.
Beautiful Frelcia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#113 - 2014-01-19 06:43:19 UTC
CCP to keep you motivated I have un-subbed my 2 accounts and will comeback ONLY when OP issues are resolved.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#114 - 2014-01-19 06:46:58 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Really, so how did Curse alliance and Stain alliance and all the other alliances hold their space for so long in the pre-timer era. I was in Stain Alliance back in the day and can confirm there was space holding and wars between space holding alliances without timers.


There was a fraction of the people back then.

Today we have capital blobs that can grind down 100+ systems in as little as a single weekend.

There was also a fraction of the server performance too. There were no structures to grind back then but still there was space holding and space defending. What does that mean?

I think it means the emphasis from 'ownership' being a 'we live here and we'll kill you if you enter' to "we dropped an npc module with 10 million hp that says we own this and if you shoot it it'll become invulnerable giving us time to bring our entire coalition tomorrow" was a bad idea.

Perhaps fixing sov is just removing sov.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#115 - 2014-01-19 06:48:19 UTC
Beautiful Frelcia wrote:
CCP to keep you motivated I have un-subbed my 2 accounts and will comeback ONLY when OP issues are resolved.

Can I have your stuff then?
Because you will never see the issues 'resolved' since you will just pile larger blobs on till the node reaches the same point, no matter how CCP has upgraded their servers this has held true.
Honest Blob
Doomheim
#116 - 2014-01-19 07:26:35 UTC
Before all you tards in CFC start qqing about jump in lag or spending hours in a cyno tunnel, maby your coalitions should have been smarter, you know like staging the dreads in system in the STATION YOU CAN DOCK IN before the fight and used those 1000 domis to establish station control to assist on the undock. But hurdur that would require thinking. Cant have that now can we, Oops its ccp's fault.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#117 - 2014-01-19 07:38:13 UTC
Beautiful Frelcia wrote:
CCP to keep you motivated I have un-subbed my 2 accounts and will comeback ONLY when OP issues are resolved.

2 less goons in the game?

PERFECT

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Roxie Glitz
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#118 - 2014-01-19 07:39:27 UTC
Who of the CSM Team is capable of solving those problems together with ccp? I think several nullsec people are in csm right now, we should talk to them
embrel
BamBam Inc.
#119 - 2014-01-19 07:39:57 UTC
Rekkr Nordgard wrote:
Nicemeries wrote:
Did CCP even make a statement about this huge failure?


Even now, emails are being sent out to make sure that all CCP employees know that they are to pretend that this fight never happened.

Well, it didn't, did it?
Michael Escoto
Accretia Implants and Biotech Industries
#120 - 2014-01-19 08:00:11 UTC
Honest Blob wrote:
Before all you tards in CFC start qqing about jump in lag or spending hours in a cyno tunnel, maby your coalitions should have been smarter, you know like staging the dreads in system in the STATION YOU CAN DOCK IN before the fight and used those 1000 domis to establish station control to assist on the undock. But hurdur that would require thinking. Cant have that now can we, Oops its ccp's fault.


But you can't refute that there IS a problem with getting in, right? Just drop politics/agendas for a moment..