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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#461 - 2014-01-23 06:17:49 UTC
ISD Tyrozan wrote:
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CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#462 - 2014-01-23 06:35:50 UTC
"We jumped our ships in, understanding that the node was already stressed to its maximum limit. As such, we're going to blame CCP because we attempted a new way to crash the node, and it failed spectacularly."

Pretty much everything CFC says.

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#463 - 2014-01-23 08:15:12 UTC
Anya Klibor wrote:
"We jumped our ships in, understanding that the node was already stressed to its maximum limit. As such, we're going to blame CCP because we attempted a new way to crash the node, and it failed spectacularly."

Pretty much everything CFC says.

Actually it was not too bad at 2k. Was def not at maximum limit. When I got there it was at 1.6 and not even halfway into full TiDi, Jiti was worse at that point.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
OldWolf69
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#464 - 2014-01-23 10:25:38 UTC
It's all laughable if it does not happen to me.
It's all legit if it does not happen to me.
it's all fair game if it favours me.
It's "pro" to play with broken toys.
It's "pro" to adapt to sh*t. The more sh*t, the more "pro".
Working things are for loosers.
No things fail if there's 2 nerds left to hold the hand and lick the a*se of Devs like Fozzie. Jut proves him that stupidity didn't die.
***
Hed-Gp was fair game. All involved knew what's gonna happen. PL did play it better than CFC this time. You win some and you loose some.
Who thinks this makes the game any bit better is a Natural Born Idiot, and my Working Class Hero of the day. Who also thinks CCP could not improve the situation... who also thinks CCP could not improve the situation related to null, and all, or most of the small sh*tz we get daily... well, that guy should go fart rainbows somewhere else. This si EvE.

Prince Kobol
#465 - 2014-01-23 10:50:53 UTC
OldWolf69 wrote:
It's all laughable if it does not happen to me.
It's all legit if it does not happen to me.
it's all fair game if it favours me.
It's "pro" to play with broken toys.
It's "pro" to adapt to sh*t. The more sh*t, the more "pro".
Working things are for loosers.
No things fail if there's 2 nerds left to hold the hand and lick the a*se of Devs like Fozzie. Jut proves him that stupidity didn't die.
***
Hed-Gp was fair game. All involved knew what's gonna happen. PL did play it better than CFC this time. You win some and you loose some.
Who thinks this makes the game any bit better is a Natural Born Idiot, and my Working Class Hero of the day. Who also thinks CCP could not improve the situation... who also thinks CCP could not improve the situation related to null, and all, or most of the small sh*tz we get daily... well, that guy should go fart rainbows somewhere else. This si EvE.




Lol.. trying to keep a straight face but damn this is some funny ****.

Its usually then goons spamming threads telling everybody that they need to HTFU and that were all just pubbies yet the very second they screw up its them crying ocens of tears about how unfair everything is
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#466 - 2014-01-23 12:40:00 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Its usually then goons spamming threads telling everybody that they need to HTFU and that were all just pubbies yet the very second they screw up its them crying ocens of tears about how unfair everything is


That's a cute narrative and all but let's not forget who started this thread we're posting in.

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Snot Shot
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#467 - 2014-01-23 12:47:47 UTC
Maybe it’s time you Goonies abandon or adjust you’re worn out, but go to, response of “we’re not here to ruin the game, we’re here to ruin your game”………..seeing as it backfired a bit in this case…Blink


  • •Or you Goon pet Alliances could break up the giant blue circle jerk you’ve created out of null sec which directly contributes to the number of pilots you think you need in order to win a fight?..Idea


  • •Or you Goon pet Alliances could not “Third party” into an already large engagement between two other coalitions which didn’t see many TiDi and crashed nodes until you chuckle f**ks showed up?...Idea


  • •Or you Goon pet Alliances could learn how to apply skill to flying your ships in order to win engagements instead of relying on ridiculous numbers to crash nodes, TiDi systems, or create blue ball situations?....Idea


  • •Or you Goon pet Alliances could put pressure on your ALLIANCE LEADERS and tell them to stop circle jerking you sheep around by feeding you this bull **** of SOVs broken to justify the endless blue lists you folks “enjoy” yet create the situation your crying about?....Idea


  • •Or you Goon pet Alliances could play the game as it was intended……….you know, a space game where you shoot other ships not in your Alliance, instead of keeping it stuck in this cycle where you blame CCP for all the lies you fall for that Goonies feed you as to why things are the way they are?....Idea


  • •Or you Goon pet Alliances could stop pretending that its CCPs fault for not developing a game with the capabilities, yet, to allow RARE 3,000+ pilot fights to occur flawlessly as if they happen every day of the week and you have so many other games to choose from that offer something better ffs?...Idea


  • •Or you Goon pet Alliances could stop buying into this bull **** being fed to you by The Martini and his minions that “X” is broken and therefore we need “X” done before the game will be fun again and until then its CCPs fault….. If you haven’t caught on by now that something will always be “broken” to keep you all from seeing that your just sheep being used to keep The Martini in new yoga pants and his new website making money hand over fist so he doesn’t need to work a real job (like you do) ever again…..Idea

Anywhoo…………TLDR……… stop being so ******* gullible, man the **** up and start demanding that your Alliance leaders start playing the game ffs instead of wasting your time by making someone who coined the phrase “we’re not here to ruin the game, we’re here to ruin your game”, tried to get a depressed/suicidal guy griefed into kill himself, all while he rarely even logs into play the game, publically states the game is horrible and yet makes a lot of RL advertising/website money though you keeping him and Goons “at the top”……Idea

Fly safe,.!..Pirate
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Juicy Pop
Isolated Entropy
#468 - 2014-01-23 13:17:25 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
ISD Tyrozan wrote:
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You realise you just discussed moderation? ...
Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
Shadow Cartel
#469 - 2014-01-23 13:23:30 UTC
Mr LaboratoryRat wrote:
Blue standings vs another corp/Alliance should cost isk. More blues = more tax.

Thats all im saying, think about it.


Wow never thought of this. It is a really good idea. Cos of the blue status depends on ho man people you are blueing in the corp/alliance

BALEX, bringing piracy on a whole new level.
WarFireV
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#470 - 2014-01-23 13:29:10 UTC
Could go on forever about the battle, but it doesn't matter anymore. Ships are not coming back, the only thing you can do is play on. People messed up and a ton of other people followed right along.
flakeys
Doomheim
#471 - 2014-01-23 13:32:51 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
ISD Tyrozan wrote:
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He's not discussing it he is showing what he enforces Big smile

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Mr LaboratoryRat
Confederation of DuckTape Lovers
#472 - 2014-01-23 14:56:49 UTC
HED-GP raises a few questions. The Tranquility capabilities has improved but the battles are increasing %-wise more.

My opinion is that the problem lies not in the server capabilities or code but in the abundance of isk that provides the backbone of such hugh easy (super) capital use. ((super) capitals are a exponential factor to counter (HP/required & power wise)

It is a well know fact that corp/alliance have (super) capitals fundings and/or reimbursements and that the sov-system is based around structures that haves hitpoints. Thus the more recources availeble to threat or to use at these structures, the more power a corp/alliance has. (recources in numbers and/or recources for these numbers (the last attracts the first (comfort/ease))

But what if happens if an corp/alliance or coalition joint income is gradually or exponentialy becomming higher by degree of taking more space? The natural hunger for power, the "ungoing capital cold war" and just common sence translates this in gradually or exponentialy investments in (super) capitals. Which leads to the fact that some pieces of the pie has become too spacejewbig that there is no Yang anymore. This is what almost happend in HED-GP, if CFC backed out and this is the underlaying point what PL & co tried to prove.

Even worse, the above is exacly what will happen to any smaller corp/Alliance or coalition that interferes with the bigger pieces of the pie. A thrilling and dynamic 0.0 is going to be extinct without changes and Tranquility will become the bigger version of the Chinese server. Personaly, i am missing the old eve, the 2006-7-8 EVE. Personaly i find eve politic's 0.0 scene aperap*d in the bu* and it influences the 0.0 gameplay significantly downwards. Time dialation is a very good implenmentation but it does not work if the tap doesnt get fixed leaking into the almost overflowing bucket...

By my opinion got this development speed up by some game mechanics that were not good by desighn or not used as intended (the most common known ones: anomalies, technetium, increasing populairity rentlordship ect etc "jadii jadii jadii jaaa") and are still seeping in today's EVE by the "butterfly affect". The thin balance got unevened by negative interferance and i hope to see some positive interferance into EVE to make it right versus the playerbase.

It is a good thing that times have changed and there is being listend more to the playerbase but i think it is time to finaly adres this "red head stepchild" that are leading us to were we are now.

To my opinion, i rather see a fix for this sooner than later and i hope my opinion gives a good insight for fixing it.

My Two Cents,
Prince Kobol
#473 - 2014-01-23 15:10:01 UTC
Mr LaboratoryRat wrote:
HED-GP raises a few questions. The Tranquility capabilities has improved but the battles are increasing %-wise more.

My opinion is that the problem lies not in the server capabilities or code but in the abundance of isk that provides the backbone of such hugh easy (super) capital use. ((super) capitals are a exponential factor to counter (HP/required & power wise)

It is a well know fact that corp/alliance have (super) capitals fundings and/or reimbursements and that the sov-system is based around structures that haves hitpoints. Thus the more recources availeble to threat or to use at these structures, the more power a corp/alliance has. (recources in numbers and/or recources for these numbers (the last attracts the first (comfort/ease))

But what if happens if an corp/alliance or coalition joint income is gradually or exponentialy becomming higher by degree of taking more space? The natural hunger for power, the "ungoing capital cold war" and just common sence translates this in gradually or exponentialy investments in (super) capitals. Which leads to the fact that some pieces of the pie has become too spacejewbig that there is no Yang anymore. This is what almost happend in HED-GP, if CFC backed out and this is the underlaying point what PL & co tried to prove.

Even worse, the above is exacly what will happen to any smaller corp/Alliance or coalition that interferes with the bigger pieces of the pie. A thrilling and dynamic 0.0 is going to be extinct without changes and Tranquility will become the bigger version of the Chinese server. Personaly, i am missing the old eve, the 2006-7-8 EVE. Personaly i find eve politic's 0.0 scene aperap*d in the bu* and it influences the 0.0 gameplay significantly downwards. Time dialation is a very good implenmentation but it does not work if the tap doesnt get fixed leaking into the almost overflowing bucket...

By my opinion got this development speed up by some game mechanics that were not good by desighn or not used as intended (the most common known ones: anomalies, technetium, increasing populairity rentlordship ect etc "jadii jadii jadii jaaa") and are still seeping in today's EVE by the "butterfly affect". The thin balance got unevened by negative interferance and i hope to see some positive interferance into EVE to make it right versus the playerbase.

It is a good thing that times have changed and there is being listend more to the playerbase but i think it is time to finaly adres this "red head stepchild" that are leading us to were we are now.

To my opinion, i rather see a fix for this sooner than later and i hope my opinion gives a good insight for fixing it.

My Two Cents,


I would advise you keep your 2 cents.

Eve has always been dominated by Large Power Blocks and will continued to be dominated by Large Power Blocks.

TiDi is a very innovative idea and by and large works very well and in time it will improve.

The problem I have always had with CCP is that not only do they have a bad habit of implementing half finished idea's but they are also very slow in fixing them.

Sov Mechanics being the biggest case in point. It was released half finished, many features that were talked about were never implemented and has not been looked in any serious manner since its release.

Now all indications are CCP are currently looking at it, the question is will they just tinker and in reality nothing will really change, or are they looking at wholesale changes and if so, it will be another half baked implementation.

Truth is at this moment in time I am very sceptical of any CCP say as their track record in this area is to be frank, **** poor.

I will believe it when I see it.

OldWolf69
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#474 - 2014-01-28 08:10:30 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
OldWolf69 wrote:
It's all laughable if it does not happen to me.
It's all legit if it does not happen to me.
it's all fair game if it favours me.
It's "pro" to play with broken toys.
It's "pro" to adapt to sh*t. The more sh*t, the more "pro".
Working things are for loosers.
No things fail if there's 2 nerds left to hold the hand and lick the a*se of Devs like Fozzie. Jut proves him that stupidity didn't die.
***
Hed-Gp was fair game. All involved knew what's gonna happen. PL did play it better than CFC this time. You win some and you loose some.
Who thinks this makes the game any bit better is a Natural Born Idiot, and my Working Class Hero of the day. Who also thinks CCP could not improve the situation... who also thinks CCP could not improve the situation related to null, and all, or most of the small sh*tz we get daily... well, that guy should go fart rainbows somewhere else. This si EvE.




Lol.. trying to keep a straight face but damn this is some funny ****.

Its usually then goons spamming threads telling everybody that they need to HTFU and that were all just pubbies yet the very second they screw up its them crying ocens of tears about how unfair everything is

You seem pretty quiet lately...why's that?Lol