EVE General Discussion

Entitlement generation at its best right there.

*sighs* all these wannabe important people, demanding technical impossibilities ....

~It all has happened before~

Well, it looks like people actually managed to push beyond TiDi and create actual lag. They also, well, demand the impossible - treating the word "Multithreading" as a silver bullet, which... it isn't. It's not a case of CCP being lazy bastards because they can't push the cap upwards fast enough.

The EVE server is in fact multithreaded - the client, IIRC, is not natively multithreaded.

While CCP should totally look into ways of breaking the record of "most players simultaneously shooting each other in the face in realtime", they should primarily reconsider the base of game design. If they bump the count at which their system loses its **** by 2k players, the coalitions will simply take advantage of it - more people will come to have fun and we'll reach status quo.

What requires fixing is the game design itself. If a battle of 4k over one sov structure is broken apart into 4 parallel battles of 1k, and each takes place on a separate node the system will hold up way better - so I suppose we need an incentive for the attack to be broken apart between multiple areas.

There's many factors as to why things like this occur - from the ways sov structures work (pretty much rewarding dogpiling into a system and offering little alternative while X comes out of reinforced) to titan bridges allowing instant travel to a system without the possibility of interception along the way. There's a whole load of broken here, and it won't be an easy task to fix it - still, I hope CCP has a good team on this because if the sov of today attracted hundreds of players to EVE through tales of fighting for something you built, an improved sov system can only do better.

People who complain about TIDI make me laugh. They're the same type who probably complain about traffic, not realizing that they, themselves, are a part of said traffic.

CCP have some of (if not the) most powerful servers in the gaming industry. Thousands of people can be on-grid in a single fight, far more than some games can even handle in their entire game world, let alone all together in one place. The TIDI system works reasonably well to accommodate all of them, up until you reach the extreme numbers.

Is TIDI a good system? Compared to what once was, yes, it is. Compare the time prior to TIDI, and compare it now. Fights can be much larger. But inevitably, people come along, whining, bitching, moaning, and complaining about how bad TIDI is. It isn't the best system, but the cost-benefit of its alternatives would make even Blizzard cower in terror.

If people want 4000+ pilot fights to be done without TIDI, they need to wait 5 or 10 years for the raw processing technology necessary to become affordable. Granted, by then, fights will probably be 6000+ people, and the situation will continue, simply because the necessary technology isn't affordable.

Until then, if someone doesn't like fighting under TIDI, don't. Nobody's holding a gun to your head.

No i am not ........ finally after 4 hours got back in ........ man!

And at what points did that happen? Compare numbers then, and compare numbers now. TIDI allows for significantly more people to be involved in a fight. As I said, it isn't the perfect system, but it's better than what once was.



Please define "there." I wasn't involved with HED today, no. I have, however, been involved with plenty of TIDI battles (including the battle at 6VDT at the end of the Fountain war).

I was also "there" when the problems we have now at 2500 players would occur at 250, with 500 players bringing the system to the screeching halt that now occurs at the 3000+ mark.

It's funny how sometimes people slash the tires on a bus and then yell at the bus driver that the bus isn't working.

pretty sure that you can call this battle decisive enough to say bye bye to half your community ccp.. no point fighting what cant be fought..

Xavier was right.
You're talking about a string, not a thread.

There are so many errors in this small post of yours that I don't even know where to begin...

Do I start with the GPU / CPU part? The upgraded servers part? The recoding the game part? The "refusal" on CCP's part part? The rate at which data is processed part?

Every single sentence in your post is wrong, some on multiple levels. Please, for the sake of everyone who works with computers, go learn about computers and programming before you make a post like this again.

Please.

Edit :: Unless you're trolling... That post would make sense if it were a troll. Please, please be a troll...