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When is Linux going to be Officially supported OS for eve?
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Mylan Utrigas
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-02-10 03:13:52 UTC
Seras Victoria Egivand wrote:
Katrina Bekers wrote:
It's that time of the year again? Oh, my, time flies!



yep because always having to rely on wine is the way to go ..... :eyeroll:


I gotta say, I would love a dedicated Linux client...

Wine is very hit or miss with me. It randomly stopped working, and I have been unable to get it working again since.

I really dislike having Windows on my computer just for the sake of being able to play a game (but that is literally the only reason why I keep a Windows partition, otherwise I'd do without it).
Air Bermesiah
Cry Of Death
Almost Underdogs
#22 - 2014-02-11 16:28:38 UTC
Katrina Bekers wrote:
It's that time of the year again? Oh, my, time flies!



i love you lol I always see you here and I always enjoy your comments lol


no but really guys, she's right. Even I started one of these threads on a different character over a year ago. It comes up every month or two, and the answer is always the same :/

just, cross your fingers and tell CCP what you want. thats literally all you can do. CCP is probably going to have to rewrite the game sometime in the upcoming years- maybe we'll et lucky and they'll do something that will benefit us. but ultimately, it's highly unlikely that we will see a native client unless you can find a team of ~50 linux designers who are willing to program the entire game for linux, under contract, for free. It saddens me, too, as a linux user- but we should count our blessings- and our resources would be better spent helping the wine project get better for now.
Mylan Utrigas
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-02-12 02:17:23 UTC
Personally, I think it's a good idea to bring it up.

CCP needs to know who would like it to run on Linux. If no on asks, it will never happen, because for all they know, no one cares.

Companies need feedback to know who their community is :-)
Bayta Charante
#24 - 2014-02-16 06:00:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Bayta Charante
Mylan Utrigas wrote:
Personally, I think it's a good idea to bring it up.

CCP needs to know who would like it to run on Linux. If no on asks, it will never happen, because for all they know, no one cares.

Companies need feedback to know who their community is :-)



The thing is that even the people that doesn't know that needs a linux client, needs a linux client.

It's all part of a big step we all together need to take. How many times have you people ever heard "oh man! I really like linux, but dual booting is sh#$*t. If only [put any game's name here] were available native on linux"

The truth is that even though you can go to WineHQ to see what commands to actually type, or just copypastel, to make the game run it's still voodoo for most users.

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Seras Victoria Egivand
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2014-02-16 07:30:20 UTC
Bayta Charante wrote:
Mylan Utrigas wrote:
Personally, I think it's a good idea to bring it up.

CCP needs to know who would like it to run on Linux. If no on asks, it will never happen, because for all they know, no one cares.

Companies need feedback to know who their community is :-)



The thing is that even the people that doesn't know that needs a linux client, needs a linux client.

It's all part of a big step we all together need to take. How many times have you people ever heard "oh man! I really like linux, but dual booting is sh#$*t. If only [put any game's name here] were available native on linux"

The truth is that even though you can go to WineHQ to see what commands to actually type, or just copypastel, to make the game run it's still voodoo for most users.



Honestly as newer games come out and older games get updated (mmo's) the less and less viable wine becomes.. (not that it was really viable)... Yes we know the game works under wine.. It works ok.... The more ccp migrates the newer parts of the game to direct x and or if ms pulls the whole lock down though the windows store.... How much more viable is it then?

Yes wine is voodoo to some... But the amounts of steps some games require and or if the game requires 400 diffrent patches and steps to get it to wrk under linux with wine at which point does it just become more viable to just load it under windows? Point being is there is alot of linux gamers out there... They just need to make a linux client. (mac os 2)
Marsan
#26 - 2014-02-21 02:15:55 UTC
Honestly I don't think they can switch to dx11 fully as the mac client is a wine client under the hood, and windows 98 is going to hang on for a few more years.

Personally I find wine works for every game I've tried it on in 2014. Also with steam for linux, and humble bundle there are a lot more linux games available. Gaming under linux has been on a roll for years.

Former forum cheerleader CCP, now just a grumpy small portion of the community.
Environmental Protection
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-03-01 03:28:17 UTC
I recently just switched from Gentoo to Ubuntu and Wine works much better. Some performance penalty but it's not that bad.

Recently in Gentoo Wine stopped working altogether, so it's definitely an improvement.

I'm still in the "I would be super stoked if there was a native Linux client" camp.
Marsan
#28 - 2014-03-11 18:22:55 UTC
Valve just open sourced their dx9 to opengl lib. This is big as they MIT licensed it, and put it on github. If a number of small companies as well as Valve put some work into it it could make porting DX games easier.
http://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/valve-has-posted-their-direct3d-to-opengl-translation-layer-onto-github.3248/

On the other hand crytek is now supporting Linux which was the big road block to linux support in Star Citizen. (It remains to be seen if RSI actually follows through with prior statements about linux support.)
http://www.crytek.com/news/conference-attendees-can-also-see-a-brand-new-mobile-game-extra-engine-updates-and-much-more-at-crytek-s-booth

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Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2014-03-12 08:31:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Neuntausend
Marsan wrote:
Valve just open sourced their dx9 to opengl lib. This is big as they MIT licensed it, and put it on github. If a number of small companies as well as Valve put some work into it it could make porting DX games easier.
http://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/valve-has-posted-their-direct3d-to-opengl-translation-layer-onto-github.3248/


Well, "Limited subset of Direct3D 9.0c" and "Some SM3 support" doesn't really give me any confidence that this is better than what we already had.
Marsan
#30 - 2014-03-13 00:55:03 UTC
Environmental Protection wrote:
I recently just switched from Gentoo to Ubuntu and Wine works much better. Some performance penalty but it's not that bad.

Recently in Gentoo Wine stopped working altogether, so it's definitely an improvement.

I'm still in the "I would be super stoked if there was a native Linux client" camp.



Are you running Unity? Try running a lighter window manager or kde and shutoff desktop effects.

Former forum cheerleader CCP, now just a grumpy small portion of the community.
Marsan
#31 - 2014-03-13 00:58:20 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
Marsan wrote:
Valve just open sourced their dx9 to opengl lib. This is big as they MIT licensed it, and put it on github. If a number of small companies as well as Valve put some work into it it could make porting DX games easier.
http://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/valve-has-posted-their-direct3d-to-opengl-translation-layer-onto-github.3248/


Well, "Limited subset of Direct3D 9.0c" and "Some SM3 support" doesn't really give me any confidence that this is better than what we already had.


It's a start, but the hope would be be that various companies work on DX11 support and contribute back. Then hope that CCP ports Eve to Linux. Honestly it's a long shot, but it's the 1st time I've actually thought there was any chance that there would be a native Linux or Mac client.

Former forum cheerleader CCP, now just a grumpy small portion of the community.
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