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A question for all capsuleers.

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Jace Sarice
#41 - 2014-01-20 14:12:23 UTC
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:
My original body was interred in a private graveyard owned by my family. I was there while it happened.

I'm not one for philosophical pronouncements, but it's an odd feeling. Until the day my neuron pattern goes dark for the final time, I'll always be a being of two places; my body in that grave, and my will in the stars.


Curiosity has taken me. What makes you view that "original body" as part of your being in any sense beyond nostalgia?
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#42 - 2014-01-21 00:51:59 UTC
Fireworks, liquor, and a nuclear detention. That's how my original body went out. Good times.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Raphael Ordo
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#43 - 2014-01-21 06:55:47 UTC
No funeral.
None needed.

As others before me has similarily mentioned;
I am still alive in every context that we can perceive and experience.

In the end, I guess it's all a matter of ones perspective of the mind-body problem, and our relation to our own capsuleer ID and ego.
Raposao1978
#44 - 2014-01-21 07:41:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Raposao1978
I think therefore I am.
When I need a funeral it will be when I am unable to ever think again.
My family does not honor just my body, they like the man I am.
If I was in a wheel chair and a quadriplegic my family would still like the man I am.
My mind defines me as a person.
My soul is not locked to one particular pile of flesh, fluids, and bones.
My faith is just as strong as when I was baseline, honestly perhaps stronger now.
Funerals are for those we have lost and will not see again in life.
We are a new breed of humanity, humanity 2.0
We need to redefine the parameters with out being trapped by the non-applicable traditions of the past.
Embrace the present and the future.
We can spend several lifetimes learning, earning, giving, and loving, imagine our potential.
Unlike the countless trillions that came before us, our time here shall be long, make the most of it!

Self destruct so i can have your salvage ..... i'll get it anyway ..... and this saves us both some time!

Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#45 - 2014-01-22 01:59:36 UTC
Jace Sarice wrote:
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:
My original body was interred in a private graveyard owned by my family. I was there while it happened.

I'm not one for philosophical pronouncements, but it's an odd feeling. Until the day my neuron pattern goes dark for the final time, I'll always be a being of two places; my body in that grave, and my will in the stars.


Curiosity has taken me. What makes you view that "original body" as part of your being in any sense beyond nostalgia?

It's the vessel in which I spent my formative years. It's as a part of me as anything; the DNA continues on in my clones, and the will animating that body continues in my neural pattern. My past is integral in what I am. That body represents my beginnings; the founding upon which I plot my path towards the future.

In short, it's a personal belief held by my planet's culture.

I must say, it has been... awkward, at times. Some of my crew in the past have wanted to "pay respects" to my grave, according to their own cultural beliefs. I didn't discourage it, and allow them access to the family manor. But I certainly did not accompany them when one of them asked me.
Erik Kaassan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#46 - 2014-01-22 19:18:06 UTC
I'm not sure I ever had a family before my fiance's. So my input on this topic is rather limited. however I think if somebody threw a funeral for me with me in attendance that would feel very awkward, uncomfortable, and just unnecessary. I'm alive. Why would people act like I've died?
Naomi Tichim
Sovereign Hospitaller Order of Saint Katherine
#47 - 2014-01-31 06:52:34 UTC
No. For one, I haven't actually died yet. For another, I have no living family.
Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#48 - 2014-02-02 02:45:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Saya Ishikari
No, mostly by virtue of not having anyone I would consider immediate family within reach until recently. I shed my original form, finally, about a week ago for something with far fewer defects. I don't miss it.

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117

Anatole Madullier
Alexylva Paradox
#49 - 2014-02-03 14:44:11 UTC
Shoot me again, I ain't dead yet.

My folks were well aware of what the procedure entailed. I managed to get them involved in how it happened and I believe dad wanted to be there for the proceedings but in the end decided against it.

Truth be told, mum sends a message now and then asking how many bodies I've gone through and if the current one feels okay. So I think they've come to terms with the whole dying thing.

Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#50 - 2014-02-03 14:53:16 UTC
No.

After all this time, I don't even recall where my original body is, to be honest. Somewhere in the Wilds close to the MH border, I think.

Also, I have never lost time between clones, so I consider my current clone a direct continuation of my personality, and as such have never "died" despite several emergency reclonings. I do feel differently about a backup, but luckily have never had to resort to such. (I reserve the right for that backup to feel differently, if she ever wakes up.)

I have often said, jokingly, that technically according to the Way back home, I am a ghost. People who die but are not held a letting-go for are said to wonder the universe, restless, haunting those of their kin who used to love them. I suppose that is not far from truth, either.

Elsebeth
Brock Yevikaan
#51 - 2014-02-03 16:21:01 UTC
If my family were to know I was a capsuleer, I can't imagine them fretting over the original body.
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