Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Its not good business to sell ships and weapons to an enemy which would in turn use the ship and weapons to destroy you. Or to buy from your enemy filling their coffers with ISK they'd use against you. The idea is based on having the ability to place restrictions on who you want to buy from or sell to (using player names in standings lists). This would be a setting each player can enable or disable for themselves.

As an industrial player the idea first came to me after considering the lack of resolve experienced when an industrial player is killed by a pirate/ganker. As an industrial player I do not have the skills to claim kill rights nor do I care, I am after all an industrial player. Gankers are good at killing, that's their game, I'm good at industry, that's my game. However if I could restrict trade with said ganker, I'd be using my industrial power against them.

What is proposed is that when a player attempts to trade on the market or through contracts, that a check is carried out against names listed in your bad/terrible standings list, or even concords negative standings list (criminal trade restriction). The corporation standings list could also be used. If a player is listed they receive a message informing them that the player/corp refuses to trade with them or that they are about to enter into trade with an opposing corporation. If players choose to enable the setting, they can deny their enemies resources. There are ways around this, logging an alt, or getting a friend in a different corporation to buy an item, but this in itself is a hindrance/deterrent. If both parties disable the setting and agree to trade freely they can still do so.

This would allow corporations to do battle on a new front, this time at the business table. Obviously large corporations/alliances would have a much larger effect but would call for more collaboration. This would allow industrial corporations to be as formidable at the business table, as military based corporations are on the battlefield.

This in itself could reignite the importance of independent industrialists, no affiliations means no trade restrictions.

There should not be any balancing issues, in effect you're denying yourself the sale and income, or the opposing corps is denying you sale/wares. Since it is self imposed each player can determine the importance they place on doing this.

The four outcomes would be as follows:
First check if player is in list, if No = Sale

If player is in list, then
buyer agrees + seller agrees = Sale
buyer disagrees + seller agrees = No Sale
buyer agrees + seller disagrees = No Sale
buyer disagrees + seller disagrees = No Sale

This.

Thank you for the feedback but my post did say the following:

"There are ways around this, logging an alt, or getting a friend in a different corporation to buy an item, but this in itself is a hindrance/deterrent."

I do believe that if you have to switch alts when performing every other transaction that it can get tiresome. It forces you to shop with your alt, it also forces you to have an alt. I believe my point remains valid, you will be required to change the way you play based on the restrictions applied.

I am also willing to hear any alternative ideas on industrial warfare.

Most market alts are in hubs, and most places an industrialist would sell would also be in hubs.... hubs also tend to have more than 1 person selling an item of 'x' type. I support the free market notion here, but the impact this would have on Eve would be very small, if at all, and would probably take quite a bit of effort to code.

I think it's cute all the non-indy players assume we would leave NPC corps blue.

There is no tax benefit either way.

Definitely this as a reason we would not see anything like this occurring.

if that comes i can see homepage filled with ganker names and evtl potetnial alts from them