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Nerf Nullsec Income by 10%

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#21 - 2014-01-15 20:13:26 UTC
Only carebears rat for bounties in nullsec. You make a lot more isk from selling BPC's and faction/deadspace loot than you do from bounties. So yeah, your lack of understanding of how nullsec actually works leads to a nerf on lazy carebears. Please nerf away. Pew is still the same.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#22 - 2014-01-15 20:19:15 UTC
Notorious Fellon wrote:

Move for real too; don't just swap to an alt and run missions while your Nullsec ISK faucets are passively padding your wallet.


Pray tell, what "nullsec ISK faucets" pad a wallet? I know about invention and PI and moon mining, all valid nullsec activities. However all that does is give me blueprints and planetary commodities and moon goo. Try to buy something with Thulium and see how it goes. The market only accepts ISK. You can only pad your wallet with ISK. Increasing your stockpile of materials is not an "ISK faucet", anymore than someone who mines veldspar is "earning ISK".

L2 eve economy before you make yourself sound silly with comments like this.
Notorious Fellon
#23 - 2014-01-15 20:24:34 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Notorious Fellon wrote:

Move for real too; don't just swap to an alt and run missions while your Nullsec ISK faucets are passively padding your wallet.


Pray tell, what "nullsec ISK faucets" pad a wallet? I know about invention and PI and moon mining, all valid nullsec activities. However all that does is give me blueprints and planetary commodities and moon goo. Try to buy something with Thulium and see how it goes. The market only accepts ISK. You can only pad your wallet with ISK. Increasing your stockpile of materials is not an "ISK faucet", anymore than someone who mines veldspar is "earning ISK".

L2 eve economy before you make yourself sound silly with comments like this.



Moon goo and PI in nullsec do not make ISK. News at 11:00.

Stop splitting hairs.

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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#24 - 2014-01-15 21:16:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Cipher Jones
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Yes..nerf nullsec all you want.... all youll succeed in doing is bringing all of us ingrates from nullsec into highsec...and then guess who were going to want to play with...

That's right. We are going to want to 'play' with all you risk adverse, introvert highseccers.... and I don't think youre all going to like our nullsec style shenanignas in your backyards...


Nullbears already pussify hisec on the daily with their alts. Bringing mains to Hisec also would just make null 100% bots and therefore even safer.

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Otto VanNavita
Offworld Mining Inc
#25 - 2014-01-15 21:41:09 UTC
Hate crap like this.

maybe time to stop subing and try other mmo;s
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2014-01-15 21:49:13 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Yes..nerf nullsec all you want.... all youll succeed in doing is bringing all of us ingrates from nullsec into highsec...and then guess who were going to want to play with...

That's right. We are going to want to 'play' with all you risk adverse, introvert highseccers.... and I don't think youre all going to like our nullsec style shenanignas in your backyards...

But I thought null sec players were already in hi sec with their alts Blink.

Successfully doinitwrong™ since 2006.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-01-15 21:53:19 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
PotatoOverdose wrote:
You know what the best way to prove your point is? Actually moving to hisec. If CCP sees truly large numbers moving out of null into hisec, they'll take action. They'll judge you on what you do, not what you say.

Until then, all of this is just empty blather.


Well that actually happened a few years ago. So your theory is what? If just one more dude moves, that'll trigger a change?


For them to actaully change stuff, I think you will need more than train an alt to farm lvl 4. If all your toons were out of null all the time and if many people actaully did that inseadt fo just farming in High to finance whatever they do in Null, the Null activity would go down a noticable amount. Stop all the wars, make all the space completely unused and they will notice.
Kryptik Kai
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#28 - 2014-01-15 21:54:19 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
nullsec style shenanignas


NOOOOO

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Fix Sov
#29 - 2014-01-15 22:53:20 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Only carebears rat for bounties in nullsec. You make a lot more isk from selling BPC's and faction/deadspace loot than you do from bounties. So yeah, your lack of understanding of how nullsec actually works leads to a nerf on lazy carebears. Please nerf away. Pew is still the same.

So what would happen if we were to take this line of logic and apply it to the swell people of hisec?

The current sov system is too heavily reliant on the defender saving systems by stuffing as many people as possible into the system for the final timer, instead of incentivizing attacking (and defending) multiple systems at the same time by splitting their forces into multiple fleets and using actual intelligence/strategy. This must change.
Fix Lag
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-01-15 22:53:48 UTC
I can't wait until CCP forces those nullsec ratters to waste yet more time shooting red crosses. Keep up the good work, CCP!

CCP mostly sucks at their job, but Veritas is a pretty cool dude.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2014-01-15 23:37:55 UTC
Well, my nullsec friends insist that people who care about ISK are just dirty carebears and EVE is really about awesome PvP and tears :D ... so presumably no-one will care if null income gets nerfed.
Sointu Luonnotar
Doomheim
#32 - 2014-01-16 00:54:06 UTC
"Nerf nullsec" hah! This is the first time I've ever seen anything resembling a nullsec nerf (and let's be honest, it's not - the devblog says right there you can actually get 105% income!) and I've been at this game for seven years. Null always gets the best and most of everything new. This isn't the exception.
Fix Sov
#33 - 2014-01-16 00:59:05 UTC
Sointu Luonnotar wrote:
"Nerf nullsec" hah! This is the first time I've ever seen anything resembling a nullsec nerf

Then you haven't been paying attention.

The current sov system is too heavily reliant on the defender saving systems by stuffing as many people as possible into the system for the final timer, instead of incentivizing attacking (and defending) multiple systems at the same time by splitting their forces into multiple fleets and using actual intelligence/strategy. This must change.
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#34 - 2014-01-16 01:15:29 UTC
Time to liquidate all my billions in officer loot that CCP spawned in my hangars and buy catalysts.

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Fix Lag
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2014-01-16 01:15:51 UTC
I don't know about you all but I thoroughly enjoy a massive kick in the nuts from CCP every time I want to make money in the space I earned.

CCP mostly sucks at their job, but Veritas is a pretty cool dude.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2014-01-16 01:22:50 UTC
Fix Lag wrote:
I don't know about you all but I thoroughly enjoy a massive kick in the nuts from CCP every time I want to make money in the space I earned.


The space you earned, developed and have to defend 24/7 without super magic goku police helping you.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2014-01-16 01:58:27 UTC
I was wondering how long it was going to take before some ~maverick~ CCP dev thinks he's outsmarted the players and gone all "**** you I know what's best for you" and pushes through a wildly unpopular change that adversely affects a large number of players.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#38 - 2014-01-16 02:06:40 UTC
No matter what CCP does with this ESS, we'll adapt to it (i'm adapting right now, Lanngisi is cool this time of year lol), what we've tried to tell CCP is don't repeat the history of the anom nerf, but it seems to fall on deaf ears.

Oh well, high Sec guys, get ready for a FLOOD of nullbears all up in yo bidness :) .
Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
#39 - 2014-01-16 02:07:02 UTC
Hmmm, interesting. I hope the null sec ratting botters put the ESS up in their favourate systems. After all their income will increase by 5% right?That leaves me to visit said systems and acquire their hard earned iskies. Yup, this will be fun. Thanks CCP.

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Nyan Lafisques
Les chevaliers de l'ordre
Goonswarm Federation
#40 - 2014-01-16 02:11:41 UTC
I support this decision. Being in Dronelands, I'm privileged with the most better rats in the universe, whit sub-par bounties and no loot.
In fact, nerf it 15% !