Ships & Modules

Hey guys

Ok basically im after a decent fit for 0.0 Ratting with a harbinger that allow's a large amount of DPS and being able to repair good amounts/resist, along with survive

But due to my skills. 1600M Tungstan plate's eats my Powergrid like candy, and most fits seem to like the Tungstan mixed with Adaptive Nano

id love to fit 3 Heatsinks but they make the capacitor suffer and u need room for an armor repairer

heres a test build i made in EFT. any advice appreciated

http://i.imgur.com/2IhaM4g.jpg

Needs a speed mod for sure.
And if you could get to T2 guns, pulse with Scorch is a better platform imo.

Sounds like your skills are quite low. Here is a mostly meta fit non-T2 setup. Usually for PVE you don't want to buffer tank, especially armour.

The important thing is to fit the hardeners for the race that you are ratting. In this example below I fit for facing Serpentis, so making sure my Thermal and kinetic resists are high. If facing Sansha focus on EM and Thermal, etc.

Check in EFT that you can run at least one repper comfortably through the fight, the second repper is for the high DPS moment. AB is for minimising the amount of time spent under fire approaching targets.

Keep 5 x Light drones for anti-frigate, 5 x Medium drones for anti frigate


[Harbinger, Harbinger n00b]

Damage Control II
Experimental Armor Thermic Hardener I
Experimental Armor Kinetic Hardener I
Heat Sink II
Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I

Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I

Medium Anti-Thermic Pump I
Medium Anti-Thermic Pump I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I

As I bet you've heard, EM damage isn't too hot vs serpentis, so you're going to want as much of it as possible. Therefore pulse lasers. The faction crystals will help a lot too, and will pay for themselves most likely. T2 the drones ASAP. Fit 3rd heatsink if you have no trouble tanking.

[Harbinger, serpentis rat]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II OR Kinetic hardener OR Heat sink II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Experimental Armor Thermic Hardener I
Experimental Armor Kinetic Hardener I

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I or AB
Cap Recharger II OR Web
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Medium 'Knave' Energy Drain

Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I OR another resistance rig
Medium Anti-Thermic Pump I

Vespa I x5
Hornet I x5

For serp space (as mentioned) lasers aren't likely the best rat killing solution. And seeing as you are not yet T2 you might consider a crash train into a hull/wep that will be more effective. Heck if you are willing to stick with belt rats a while grain into a crow. You'll be an asset to PvP actions for your corp. As well as being faster to safe up when hostiles drop by to play.

A few things:

- As mentioned above a Prophecy (sentry fit) is massively better at this because of being able to do the right damage type
- don't fit plates for this, at all. It's a wasted slot and fitting
- pulses are in fact bad for this because short range weapons will probably need to use longer range crystals, and those LOSE thermal damage and only leave EM
- always fit specific resists
- generally you're better off with 1 repper + nano pumps than 2 reppers and cap rigs



Have a look at this Prophecy fit: it has the right damage type, good dps, good range on your sentries allowing you to not have to warp in at 0 of the belt, cloak/mwd to make it through light gate camps and cloak up in case of afk or danger, ecm drones might save you from an attacker, nos/neut will help you if you get attacked and want to fight him.

Swap to named where needed.

[Prophecy, Serp Ratter]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Sensor Booster II

[empty high slot]
Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Improved Cloaking Device II
Drone Link Augmentor II

Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Garde II x3
Warden II x3
Hobgoblin II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5

Go see what damage types long range crystals do and then come back to edit your post.

Even at low skills you get ~40km optimal from gardes in that fit, also if you use normal drones you have travel time which wastes dps OR you have to warp at 0 of the belt (which can be dangerous) and forces you to tank more. Unbonused weapon systems with 0-1 damage mods are just a waste of fitting and ammo.

Here's a dps chart for the different drone options assuming lvl 5 skills:

T1 Garde: 376
Faction Garde: 406
T2 garde: 451
2 +2+1: 526

Going for Faction gardes makes good sense, they're not that expensive, yes you lose paper dps but you gain instant damage, no travel time between targets and being able to gtfo when needed because pulling them in takes a second. Both work, both have their pros and cons. Personally I find not having to warp 0km into a belt quite important.