EVE General Discussion

I think you already answered it with that ego boosting.
Not everything in EVE is motivated by financial gain. It's also a game where ganking is something that is expected. Some people love that kind of thing.

Some people just want to watch the world burn.

1.5bn / 20 = 75m per person. At 1 gank per 15 minutes that's 300m per hour per person. Especially if you're not even tabbed into game during the 15 minutes when your criminal timer runs out.

Personally, I have NOT seen or even heard of ANY fleets that say there is a worthy gank every 15 minutes. From what I've heard from not only my own corp, but others also, is that they wait around (usually playing the market or creating contracts) for their scouts to report to them with intel on a worthy target. Which is usually hours and hours in between. I'm sure Some well-established corps have special intel on popular routes and locations for targets, but the majority have to wait hours.

Ego boost= not worth it.
75 million isk= worth it

I used to be pretty active in ganking, but I haven't been doing it as much recently just because the profitability is just very unpredictable. In my experience, there most certainly is not a gank-worthy target every 15 minutes!

TBH, coordinating a ganker, scanner, and scooper is a lot of work, and my hat goes off to all the gankers out there. Most people consider it too much work and risk, and just opt to steal other ganker's loot (which is really easy to do).

Of course I have, I once lost about 6 billion to a gank. I have nothing against ganking, it's a part of eve but I do have an issue with full time gankers.

What is the point in playing a game as complex as Eve Online if all you are going to do is be an F1 monkey 24/7.

You can do suicide ganking solo and make vast amounts of ISK. Just peruse some of the killboards such as EVE Kill etc. I watch what others do locally and a lot of ISK is made this way often just using a Catalyst or occasionally a cruiser or Batlecruiser. I will mention no names so as not to draw attention to them but they only do this or seem to.

There are SO many idiots flying unsuitable ships such as T1 industrials and other weak ships like Retrievers filled literally with billions of ISK worth of stuff including PLEX. I read a kill for Retriever the other day that had no tank and a load of valuable cargo including a PLEX. The PLEX didn't drop on that one but a big profit was still made if I recall correctly.

Sadly most humans are unintelligent - and quite a few of them are haulers in New Eden.

Did you know that with a small payment of 10 mil ISK to your local CODE. agent you can avoid all the drama of ganking for an entire year?

This is something I have never, ever understood.

From the perspective of someone who has never been suicide ganked nor has ever participated in the act, I can't understand how can you could possibly derive an ego boost from suicide ganking.

When suicide ganking, you are, quite literally, exhibiting zero skill. None. Nothing. Nada. Zip. You massed, you pressed a button, and you died. Your FC didn't display any good decision making, your logistics didn't perform admirably, you didn't take down someone who came into the fight with the intention of crushing you, you didn't break free from a certain death tackle only to sweep around and point a key ship, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't... and so on ad infinitum.

Ego should go hand-in-hand with some form of actual achievement. I fail to see how being a bottom feeder could possibly make anyone feel better about themselves.

Just because this sort of KM exists, doesn't mean that it's common. Seeing a T1 indy with >1b in cargo is pretty rare. Based on my experience, I'd say you'll see one of these once every 3 days assuming you're scanning down ships for 3 hours a day. My threshold for ganking was >400m. On average, I'd say you'll see about two of these a day (scanning 3 hours a day). Sometimes more, sometimes less.

Again, this is all based on my experience ganking. My ganking toon has 116 kills, 49b damage done, average of 415m/kill. I'm sure we've got plenty of people who will come out of the woodwork now claiming 10b/day in ganking, etc.

One of my favorite things to do in EVE is fly around the Jita and/or Amarr pipe in a Nereus (hint: you can fit hilarious tank on these things) loaded with ~1.5b in goodies collecting KRs.

FTFY.

As I've mentioned earlier, suicide gankers have to make instant decisions about whether to commit to a target or not. The randomness of the ship scanner makes this an especially dicey proposition. Every time a nado pilot commits to an indy, they're making an 80-90m ISK gamble (including sec status repair). You also need to coordinate 3 accounts, which takes a little practice. I have respect for the people who do this.

The asshats who sit and steal ganker loot are the real bottom-feeding trolls. (Or masterminds, depending on how you look at it.) You may want to give it a try yourself, you may find there's more involved there than you realize.