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If you were to drop one ahead of a ceptor roam, an ESS sounds like a nice place to camp smartbombs :)

That aside it's just more crap to assplode like the siphons

No. No it isn't.

If this is what CCP thinks we mean by "Farms and Fields," there has been a stunningly large miscommunication between CCP and the player base.

Chase them in what? They are faster than anything other than a leopard.

How do you catch them if they don't want to be caught?

What does this mythical "decent pilot" have that those 8-9 guys on the gate camp didn't?

For the record, small gang roams are the greatest fun I've ever had playing Eve. Defending against small gang roams is pretty high up there, imho. Too much home defense however bleeds fleet participation over time, and gets you, the roaming gang fewer counter formups. And you know this to be true. For the ESS to be appreciated added content, the risk v. reward has to be significantly higher. High enough so that alliance level leadership can't dictate to the rank and file not to use such a thing. The incentive has to be high enough for corp and alliance leadership to consider investing resources into defending these damn things. Right now, just banning them will be the easymode answer from the 'defender' POV.

Except perhaps for Drones. Where this will hit hardest and where more negative incentive applies to figuring out SOME upside to this content. Small gangs of course will say 'YAY' fights in Drones. This will last until fleet participation falls off the cliff and then there will be no more fights, as everyone realizes that ANY other income source would be better and moves all their isk printing off to Hisec.

No one is winning with what we are being presented with as 'the' done deal. If one is pulling on the high side of 100mil isk an hour, it's 6 HOURS of farming to offset the base cost of the module, HOURS of TIME sink for Rank and File before it even begins to pay for itself, much less to offer any added benefit to a given system. Rank and File aren't exactly pulling in 100mil isk an hour though are they? Newbros aren't exactly pulling in 100mil isk an hour either. The effects of ESS mechanics aren't evenly balanced across 0.0, so already marginalized parties will have smaller margins. There really should be several stps taken back here before one inch of implementation moves forward.

There's a big difference between "Fitting the description" and being something that's of value and going to be used. Anyone who has done any requirements/project management is familiar with this concept.

Did you actually read the 20 pages? They have mostly been people explaining why this provides no disruption to null sec isk generation above and beyond what small gangs already do just by existing.

CCP SoniClover, because you don't play Eve Online, I'll explain here what it is that you don't realise:

1. Nul sec entities tend to have dedicated ratting systems. There are a myriad of reasons why that particular system ended up being the ratting system, none of which are important here.
2. That system is the one system you definitely don't want roaming gang going to, if you can avoid it at all. You don't want any fights there; you want to go to their systems to have good fights, not your system.
3. As it is the ratting system, it is of course exactly where the gangs will head to, so you still minimise the fighting, you dock up, and stay docked.
4. Ergo, the last thing you would EVER want to put into your ratting system is a giant beacon for every murder gang from three regions away screaming "...the party is here guys, free iskies as well!!!!."
5. Play the damn game.

I think the bottom line is this. If you really want pvp in someone's space, you will show up in something other than an interceptor or stealth bomber. Drop an SBU and you'll have all the pvp you want. That's not your game because that's not what you want. I think its fine you want that, but let's not pretend that you're something you aren't. That's an insult to my intelligence, plus the others reading the discussion.

Nothing on your KB indicates that you were or were not "outnumbered" by "superior forces". Maybe you were or maybe it's just BS. It really isn't important, as the types of ships you seem to like to fly are mainly cheap gank ships that either can 1) evade detection; 2) avoid getting shot up (inty)

Since you said you don't care about the isk-tagging for ESS, then what would be the point of introducing them into the game? Why would I, as the alliance player advocate anything to make your stay in my space more pleasurable with minimal gain for me? Quite the opposite. I want you to leave poor, frustrated and demoralized and I want to be able to control my space with logistics, tactics and numbers.

Like you desperately want to gank others, you may find it surprising that there are many attentive players that don't want to be on your killboard as gloat-food.

As someone that has characters that need to rat for some pvp isk, I can tell you I've simply adjusted my playstyle and stuck a cloak on my ratting ships since the introduction of all this cloaky camping. This is basically the only way to frustrate cloaky campers enough to make them leave. I do find it deliciously ironic how much they hate cloaks, warp stabs, and will gladly tell you how much a coward you are etc., then proceed to use them themselves.

The butt-hurt golden tears I give pvper's gives me great pleasure.

i.e. "No I haven't read it but I am speaking on the assumption that it agrees with my notion of how nullsec ratting works even though I don't actually understand it."

It has nothing to do with "cowardice", which is a worthless ad hominem. Ratters not giving you a fight is not cowardice, it is a logical, rational, and in the current game mechanics, correct response.