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Tanthos
Tanthos Corp
#1 - 2014-01-13 19:51:38 UTC
Is anyone else put off from fleet pvp by Teamspeak?

Its an immersion killer, and I hate it. But all corps seem to require it.
Jill Chastot
WE FORM BL0B Inc.
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2014-01-13 19:54:39 UTC
Good communication is an advantage in fights, i like that

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Leigh Akiga
Kuhri Innovations
#3 - 2014-01-13 19:58:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Leigh Akiga
Tanthos wrote:
Is anyone else put off from fleet pvp by Teamspeak?

Its an immersion killer, and I hate it. But all corps seem to require it.


Imagine you are a fleet commander and you warp your fleet from a station undock to a titan pos so you can bridge your fleet to your destination. Suddenly a hictor decloaks 20km off your titan pos and lights a cyno. An Archon comes through and lights another cyno.

12 Machariels come through the second cyno and begin to bump your titan pilot out of the pos, a hostile Dominix fleet comes through last and begins to kill your fleet which is now bubbled on the edge of a pos they cant get into because the titan pilot had to change the pos password to avoid being bumped out.

You begin typing: guys guys guys- hang on while I type out these instructions...

Meanwhile your fleet is dead and you are still furiously typing and backspacing changing instructions with the shifting battlefield.

(This actually happened- and no, no one is ever gonna command a fleet with text only thats idiotic)
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-01-13 20:00:18 UTC
Tanthos wrote:
Is anyone else put off from fleet pvp by Teamspeak?

Its an immersion killer, and I hate it. But all corps seem to require it.


In the days of flying spaceships between solar systems voice to voice communication is an immersion killer?
why not join a RP corp and pretend to be space people together.
surely fleet communication via text is a bigger immersion breaker considering the tech we have access to?

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Logical 101
PowerCow Farm
#5 - 2014-01-13 20:03:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Logical 101
Tanthos wrote:
Is anyone else put off from fleet pvp by Teamspeak?

Its an immersion killer, and I hate it. But all corps seem to require it.

Immersion killer?

Look man, if you're playing this game for RP that's one thing, but all effective PvP and PvE forces use voice. Furthermore, why on earth would you be averse to making real friends with people? That's what this game has always been about for me. The politics, communities and daily operations of all good EVE corporations require solid, sustained and frequent voice communications. There is simply no way around this.

Pure text went out at the turn of the last century. End of story.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#6 - 2014-01-13 20:05:06 UTC
Use Eve voice for a month.




Don't worry, teamspeak will be there for you when you come crawling back.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-01-13 20:12:37 UTC
Tanthos wrote:
Is anyone else put off from fleet pvp by Teamspeak?

Its an immersion killer, and I hate it. But all corps seem to require it.


You must be new here.

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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#8 - 2014-01-13 20:16:14 UTC
Tanthos wrote:
Is anyone else put off from fleet pvp by Teamspeak?

Its an immersion killer, and I hate it. But all corps seem to require it.


lol whut.

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Thead Enco
HR..
#9 - 2014-01-13 20:17:15 UTC
Tanthos wrote:
Is anyone else put off from fleet pvp by Teamspeak?

Its an immersion killer, and I hate it. But all corps seem to require it.


Who "yelled" at you on comms for auto-piloting your jump freighter thru the amarr pipe?
Logical 101
PowerCow Farm
#10 - 2014-01-13 20:20:18 UTC
Thead Enco wrote:
Who "yelled" at you on comms for auto-piloting your jump freighter thru the amarr pipe?

Lol
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#11 - 2014-01-13 20:24:57 UTC
Tanthos wrote:
Is anyone else put off from fleet pvp by Teamspeak?

Its an immersion killer, and I hate it. But all corps seem to require it.



Because typing in a chat window is 100% immersive.
Skywalker
TEMPLAR.
The Initiative.
#12 - 2014-01-13 20:37:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Skywalker
Before teamspeak was common, people actually typed ingame, and it's still doable, but ofc not as good.
I guess it depends abit on how well oiled the gang is and if they know what to do.
I saw some alliance recruiting a while ago, they where non-teamspeak, can't recall the name.
Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
#13 - 2014-01-13 20:38:40 UTC
OP is afraid to speak with other people and fears that they may hear his voice.

aka

Phone Phobia.

Idea
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#14 - 2014-01-13 20:45:45 UTC
Im trying to infiltrate an alliance, and im roleplaying a 42 year old war veteran, and im afraid if they get me on teamspeak, my voice will crack and they'll learn I am 12.

So far, ive been able to fool them with my 'Supr xlent tots amaze txt spek' and my complete inability to use the correct version of you're, your, they're, their and there..but I think my cover is wearing thin... I may need to resort to desperate measures....

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#15 - 2014-01-13 20:49:30 UTC
The problem here isnt corps. Its you. Your idea that it kills immersion is ridiculous. Are you saying in spaceships we dont have a bloody radio system?
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#16 - 2014-01-13 20:52:16 UTC
Skywalker wrote:
Before teamspeak was common, people actually typed ingame, and it's still doable, but ofc not as good.
I guess it depends abit on how well oiled the gang is and if they know what to do.
I saw some alliance recruiting a while ago, they where non-teamspeak, can't recall the name.


"Before teamspeak was common" refers to a period of time before TQ went live for the first time.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#17 - 2014-01-13 21:03:33 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Im trying to infiltrate an alliance, and im roleplaying a 42 year old war veteran, and im afraid if they get me on teamspeak, my voice will crack and they'll learn I am 12.

So far, ive been able to fool them with my 'Supr xlent tots amaze txt spek' and my complete inability to use the correct version of you're, your, they're, their and there..but I think my cover is wearing thin... I may need to resort to desperate measures....


I laughed, I cried, I urinated a little.
Rin Valador
Professional Amateurs
#18 - 2014-01-13 21:15:57 UTC
You can still have immersion and teamspeak. This comes from my own personal experience.

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E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#19 - 2014-01-13 21:18:30 UTC
Tanthos wrote:
Is anyone else put off from fleet pvp by Teamspeak?

Its an immersion killer, and I hate it. But all corps seem to require it.

Just like real naval fleets communicate in real time. Why would you not have the same for space craft. if anything it should make you feel more immersed.
Summer Isle
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#20 - 2014-01-13 21:22:09 UTC
Tanthos wrote:
Is anyone else put off from fleet pvp by Teamspeak?

Its an immersion killer, and I hate it. But all corps seem to require it.


I hate Teamspeak, too. Voice chats in general. Makes it really hard to continue pretending I'm actually a girl to dupe desperate kids out of their ISK and other goodies. A little flirtatious text and a ~<3 or =^_^= in a text chat are much easier to work with.

At least EvE Voice makes it easier, and it isn't difficult to convince someone who wants to voice chat that you don't want to give out your TS account to a random person.

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