Missions & Complexes

The first big buff to ganking was the introduction of T3 BCs. A T3 BC fleet is far cheaper than the traditional BS fleet for freighter sized ganks.

Th second was the buffs to destroyers, which opened up a wave if lower cost ganking options.

Currently the biggest issue is not an overall increase but rather a consolidation of gankers. Largely due to the introduction of SOE ships. Everyone and their mother are farming SOE LP. What's the fastest way? Yea blitzing. How? In your pimp blitzing ships.

It has brought gankers like moths to a flame.

Which was promptly followed by the removal of insurance.



Which was followed by a huge increase in the EHP of barges.



Which are combat ships.

Gotta say I'm really tired of seeing pro gank players using the flimsy excuse of 'Insurance Removed' as justification that Suicide Ganking is now harder to do.

I don't care what anyone says, Insurance payout on T1 ships is pitiful, to say the least. Payout on T2 is a joke and T3......... As I said before, that's just a little slap on the hand. Doesn't mean squat.

Mining Barge re-balance / changes are ass-backwards. The smallest ship has the best tank and worst yield while the largest ship has the worst tank and best yield.


DMC

Which is the right way round otherwise nobody would ever fly a skiff, ever.

I also didn't use "insurance removed as something that made it harder", I pointed out that the isk/damage before concord arrives ratio has not really changed, because as the damage was increased (destroyer rebalance, teir3 bc), the insurance was also removed, keeping ganking in the same cost ballpark.

Putting 10 characters into GCC (15 minutes), has an opportunity cost of 250m isk, given that the same accounts could be running sisters missions or incursions for 100m an hour, and I wouldn't be surprised if the average gank was running at an opportunity cost of 750m or more, since I doubt people log on and gank someone, or manage to get straight back in a ship after GCC and gank someone.

I think the sec status hit is a red herring here. well unless you like podding people and still having free access to highsec. ratting/missions will keep your sec in decent shape rather easily. If you are going to be ganking to the point where you want to use tags4sec, well I can only imagine you would want to make sure you were profiting. and on the other hand it is pretty damn easy to go flying a destroyer around highsec ganking people even with -5 or below, especially if they sit right on the warp in.

as for the example of a cnr with 3x CN bcus I can't help but feel that was a random gank and they were just out to kill a CNR.


as for the mining barge thing it is a trade off, maybe the hulk could use a bit more, but damn that seems to be one of the lowest priority things I can think of.

Uh no, because you're not making that much isk per account if you're multiboxing at all, nor are you making that much isk per account if those characters have only a few million sp, which is all that is needed. "250m oppourtunity cost for 15 minutes" is an enormous, MEANINGLESS, ass-pull.

Locking a battleship aligning at a gate that is not mwd/cloak tricking has always been trivial.

A kronos doesn't need its full cargo, even if its running a cap booster for missions, so I would have an explosive membrane, a 1600mm plate, 2 eanms and a damage control in cargo to fit for when I was gating or docking up at the L4 mission hub. Thats probably enough to ruin ganking calculations as is, but 2 plates is even more painful, and it also moves your faction damage mods into cargo, which may not get scanned when looking for gankable mission boats.

They only need to be T2 as well. You can use mobile depots both by carrying one, or you may find it more convenient to leave one in system pre-deployed, in which case you can hide a cloak in there too. (they are often a bit big to carry in a mission ships cargo and ruin locking time if fitted even afaik if offline, but its awesome if someone is deliberately hunting your ship with probes as cloaking ends that game). Generally speaking the resulting buffer marauder should only lose a few seconds in the first pocket shooting without damage mods and with the omni tank until your depot deploys if you are deploying one you carried in.

ie I can't see that its going to cost -minutes- per mission to protect a marauder from the chokepoint ganks - and an all passive module arrangement won't matter if you are slow at clicking buttons after uncloaking to align. If you aren't using an mwd/cloak setup as well, the only thing you need to click is the DC.

I always find these comments amusing, All of the EVE veterans tell players to 'Fit for the mission' and then someone comes along and says 'Fit an ECM burst'

So what is it, fit for mission of fit for PVP.

Have one extra catalyst that doesn't shoot at the mission runner but just gets right next to him with the others and locks him. Then watch as the ECM burst causes Concord to come and gank the mission runner.