EVE General Discussion

Clearly, you haven't spent enough time harassing highsec miners. They're some of the biggest culprits. Mission runners too, have a tendency to explode when you interact with them in any way that breaks their fugue state.



Entirely depends on you.

The real industrialist players are to be lauded and praised. Although since you said lowsec I'd love to know precisely what activity you pursue.

If I were out "harassing" players it'd be a bit naïve of me to expect them to welcome my behavior with open arms. But more interesting I think, what is your motivation for harassing them?


Mostly POS maintenance. I don't get to log in often due to the type of work I do and lifestyle I live. And when I have the time I dabble on missions too; in both, lo and hi sec. Though the missioning is for fun mostly. I'm the type of player that loves to collect isk. It's how I like to measure my success in the game. Combat PVP has never been my thing.

Mostly because it's funny that they explode into tears and anger when you do it. Especially when you point out how easily they could have avoided you by actually playing the game. But no, they just keep on going afk when they do anything, and somehow expect that consequences are things that only happen to other people.

But if I had to give a reason, my primary motivation would be because it's funny.



So, both sides don't actually do it. One does.

I find it funny though, that all of these "player retention" changes happen to coincide so neatly with what the SimCity crowd, as you called them, wanted out of it. That being, to crowd the other side out of the game as much as they can.

Remember what I said about them getting their way because they keep bleating about they'll quit if they don't get what they want?

Well, I don't believe in coincidences.

Because NPC corps don't exist, right?

I like my NPC school, have no intention of leaving it.

As for PvP in EVE its rather limited. If I feel like PvP I fire up a combat flight sim, don my head trackers and grab the hotas pedals and joystick and start throwing an early war bf109 around. I f Valkyrie ever becomes a reality I may rethink that.

Deduction is not evidence, I find it much more believable that CCP wanted to securize highsec because it is newbieland and that give newcomers more time to learn how to more or less correctly play the basis of the game.
That moaning highsec simciters got their space secured too was only an easily predictable consequence, not a direct goal.

But there seems to indeed be a trend in what CCP has been doing during the past months/years: they are trying to better PvE content.
Why they are doing so, well I have my idea but I'm not sure, so I wouldn't sprout nonsense, there is already enough of that in all corners of these forums.

This is part of what I've been saying.

It's a zero sum game. Neither side will give ground.

But one side (the carebear side) has been getting what they want, over and over again for a while now. It's time they started taking a hit themselves.

Other than the bit where you are wrong. Because there aren't 2 sides. There is a continuum. You exist at the very far end where everyone is your rightful prey and anything that exists to stop that is unfair. You talk about 'carebear' tears. I've seen plenty of ganker tears myself when their gank failed for some reason. "Why did you warp off" "How did you warp that fast, Hacks, I'm reporting you" "I had enough DPS to kill you, how did you cheat your EHP". All of these I've seen coming from gankers. Tears are not exclusive to any group in EVE. And most people fall somewhere between the two extremes. Sure, you have the pure carebears, who want freighters to be untouchable. But then you have a lot of people in the middle who people like you love to group with the pure carebears, who want the ability to fit their freighters and to be able to make meaningful choices. Those people are not crying carebears, they are sensible people who want options. And some will both use freighters and gank. People can mine in High Sec and play in low & null also. There is plenty of middle ground. You just love to polarise everything because it's what society does these days to win an argument 'You are either with us or against us, you can't be half & half'

I'm one of those half & half people myself. I do feel Null needs a few buffs, like at least 40% refineries on the Factory outposts, it's still not a casual 50% refinery for easy perfect refines. But assuming my maths is right, 40% gets you there if you have all V's in all the relevant skills. I'm not against removing slots of some kind from those super hub high sec systems which have a dozen great stations in them. And I'm all for ways to allow more people to make the same amount of isk at once in Null sec systems.

But I am against simply doubling individual pilots incomes in Null, because it's already good, it just has density issues. I am against removing lvl 4's from high sec, because High Sec needs to turn a decent profit as a legit region in it's own right. I am against things that make Null/WH the king of all of EVE. Because they shouldn't be. Effort should be rewarded sure. But it shouldn't automatically dominate everything.

Not as long as people who dislike "stale" EVE (and who totally HATE EVE's community) keep paying for it just to post crap on a forum lol.

Thank you for your subscription fee/plex btw.

EXACTLY. Nullsec industry WILL NEVER BE SO EASY AS IN HISEC as far as hisec will be main trade hub. You can buff nullsec and nerf hisec as much as you want. This will never change. Hisec is industrial superpower. Deal with it.



Concord, crimewatch and insurance nerfs? So are you just another hisec l33t PvPer or real nullsec player? Those your named "nerfs" are not nerfs to nullsec at all. Because its silly if you are talking about "ruining the game you play" in one sentence and then in other sentence you are complaining about suicide gank changes (aka ruining the game of other player")......Well... You are pro



And here we go again. "Let me show you how to play correctly in this sandbox game"..

I'm just curious. What letters of the word SANDBOX you don't understand?



Well. you have obvious problem with adaptability.