EVE General Discussion

…aside from individual income going to the individual to meet his individual needs, and corp/alliance income going to the corp/alliance to meet corp/alliance needs.

No to mention the distinction between industry and PvE.

Good for you. The distinction is still there and it's still industry and thus not relevant.

Fairly well, aside from the obvious ignorance of mechanics, as long as the stated goal is clear and generally accepted. It's not particularly rare either, but not really for the reason of generating income.

Pinky, I respect your opinion and hope you continue to provide it to us. I don't agree with it but respect it nonetheless.

The general idea here is to support your opinion with data. This can be done in many ways. Some have provided DevBlogs. Others has compiled data though independent study. Tippia even blogged regarding her interpretation of data provided from CCP.

If you're goal is just to provide your opinion I think that's great. It enriches the community to hear differing viewpoints. However, if the goal is to sway people to agree with your opinion, you're going to want to get some data to support that opinion.

You can't drop a thesis on the table, without elaboration supported by data, and expect anyone to just agree with it.

Does anyone else find it really funny that Pinky says things like this:



Immediately after saying things like this:



Pinky, if you aren't trolling, your mental condition is now in question.

Wow.

So you're the kind of person who joins a 100% tax corp and then loudly proclaims that ratting is "alliance level income?"

Tell me more.

{Insert vague insult directed at Kaarous}

actually other issues are so blatantly broken that the need for balancing is unchallenged and the need to nerf highsec is unanimously acknowledged which is why noone is discussing them anymore

anyone who contests this is, simply, ignorant

actually the 'best anoms' vs missions thing is also pretty much acknowledged and discussion is centred around what can be done about it

I'm saying that you can't compare things in a vacuum.

It's pointless to compare individual income streams like that because they represent such small pieces of the overall pie.

Comparing nullsec to highsec based on mission/ratting income is kind of like comparing two different jobs based on which one has a better vending machine in the lunch room.

Name what null sov has in place of missions.

Luckily, no-one is.

No it's not, because the overall pie is irrelevant to the individual and to the decisions he make as a result of that income. It's particularly relevant since you will find people who only really have access to (or any remote interest in) one of the streams, and none of the others.

Posted this in the other "threadnaught" in F&I but wanted to repost here for posterity for those who would be interested:

I've thought of this question many, many, many times after reading the usual "nerf hisec" threads- and pondered it on occasion to try "play the tape all the way through" to get a visual on what it would look like.

Structure and order is usually set in place to keep "anarchy and chaos" from ruling everything. I personally do not have a preference either way (in traditional RPG sense, I'm one of those neutral sort of players who believes in balance in everything) but I can see why extremes on either side would cause problems. I do agree that neither complete chaos nor complete order have a place in the EVE Universe.

I don't know if his has been suggested as an alternative- but perhaps we could consider something to the effect of things like Gate Guns having "technical difficulties" randomly- defense systems going out at random points, etc. Not just in hisec- but everywhere.

That would make the game in general much more interesting. Can you imagine losing SOV randomly and having to field troops to defend? Or high traffic areas like Jita/Dixie/Hek and so forth randomly losing defensive power and pirates being able to attack without CONCORD assistance? It wouldn't be too hard to justify something like EMP interference from GRB's in order to facilitate it.