EVE General Discussion

I love it when you write a big long post explaining everything, hit post, and it just doesn't do anything and wipes out your entire post. So this will be a much shorter reply.

Due to the rapid deflation of the market, low and nullsec players find it much easier to use ingame methods to make ISK
(as their main competition, the botting/multiboxing afk/semi afk hisec players' advantage has been nullified.)

I think you mean devaluation of currency, as I explained in my long post that I don't feel like rewriting Economics 101 says if this happens your Tengu is going to cost 1.45 BIL instead of 145 MIL. (Big number just thrown in for the lolz, IE *#&$ is gonna be a lot more expensive)

It's not going to make it any easier for nullbears to make more ISK, it is just going to make the ISK they do make worth far less.

Freighters are now afraid to undock, market hubs disappear from lack of supply and available haulers, prices skyrocket and become very volatile, internet spaceships fall into chaos. Not exaggerating...

Pretty sure if someone jumps you while you're ratting in nullsec, that they have more than 30 seconds to kill you before the invincible space police vaporize them.

They can't even be compared, and it reflects poorly on you to try.

that means you are too afraid of 0.0.. oo poor girl.. maybe then you should come back to high sec if you are not ready for 0.0

I live in highsec anyway, more opportunities for tears there. I acquired a taste for them a while back.

Secondly, my EVE career was begun as a nullsec alliance line member, before this character was ever made.

So, now that we've dealt with your strawman, do you actually have a point to make, or were you going to continue attempting to attack me?

The problem with this is power creep. When a thing is a problem, you fix that thing, you don't buff everything around it because when you do you end up with unintended consequences. "Buffing" null pve (even in a waythat creates a new isk sink) makes renting more attractive, and while renters do create some conflict (by dying hilariously to roaming gangs), renting as a practice is generally bad for the game because those guys should be FIGHTING for space, not borrowing it.

The problem is that some CCP design decisions inadvertently removed (or at least dampened) one of the key incentives for PVE oriented players like me to go to and even live in null, the financial incentive. It's still fun to me and I get bored in high sec easily, but when I started playing it was fun AND lucrative (relative to high sec, I remember that 3 MONTHs it took me to grind up my 1st navy raven, less than a week of high sec incursions will get you a mach these days,.

So you have fun and abundant isk..tell me then where did the big bad hi sec touched you.?

We have shown you that high sec will earn you more isk than in null and how to do it. Why do you think that it is perfectly fine for the most risk free areas of space to give better rewards than one of the most risky?

Traditionally in the human existence higher security means more profit for the average person. For example here in the USA the average person has a good chance at making a decent living. Compare and contrast that to lowsec style countries in africa where corporations can make massive profits via harvesting of resources while the average person scrapes by. Human tradition says that a lower security area will have lower income for the plebs and higher income for the corporations/few.

Needless to say some of the comments here have gotten me thinking.

There's another angle you can take to this. If you create a game where null earns 2x as much as highsec how could you ever hope to challenge the monolithic null block? How would it be possible to beat a massive entity that is so well financed that even their individual members are rich without the help of their corp? That kind of setup would create a handful of power blocks who would then become entrenched and the game would stagnant to the point it would decline in userbase. So if you disagree with my observation I would like it if you could explain how a highsec corp with nerfed income could hope to challenge a monolithic group capable of sending nearly endless waves of top of the line ships against them.

Also how would you deal with the massive isk faucet that would be null at that point? Currently if you follow the words of people here highsec LP is a massive sink.


EDIT : Clearly there are people in null already making over 2x what people in highsec are doing. How do you keep those people from making even more while still giving other members a boost?

In the real world we don't have warp drive spaceships. This is a game.

Nobody "grows" in hisec now, nor will they ever, as the skills needed to compete in nullsec are forged in nullsec, with some basics able to be formed in lowsec.

Two terrible, oft-repeated, and painfully ill-informed arguments debunked in as many minutes. If you have no clue what you're talking about, then don't talk.

Why are you posting crap then?

You just made a post that says "null sec is africa there for it should be poor" followed by "if you let people in null sec make any money they will form huge power blocs" lol (demonstrating you can't read a map lol). Then you reply saying something about not comparing Star Citizen when no one was comparing Star Citizen.

You don't seem to be able to understand what's being discussed here, and I'm sorry, but that's no one's fault but your own.