EVE General Discussion

It is very sad to see what people call pvp these days.

Very much overdue fix to a broken mechanic.

One thing that I give you though.

It should be possible to scan ALL of the content of the Orca [and all of the ships with arrays corp hangars] and if they go pop they will drop the stuff. [same mechanic applied]


Also since people can use courier contracts to shrink wrap stuff Those Packages should be treated as any other item and have percentage chance of dropping.

When looted it could be transported to station and when the contracts runs out possible to hack.

Something like salvage percentage chance to get some random items from the sealed package with the rest being destroyed by unauthorized access with hacking skills or new skills to increase the success rate of opening package and improving the percentage of items dropped.

To be paid insurance when ship is destroyed by Concord is just logical nonsense.

The argument that it had been always the case is totally irrelevant.

We have our own "shard". If you look at the top left of the screen you will see if you are in a care-bear "shard" because the system security rating will be 0.5 or better. CCP has even helped you by making the color yellow, green or blue, so you can tell if you are in a "carebear" shard or not. If carebear "shards" bother you that much, you can use maps to avoid them at all costs.

I keep reading this, and I am wondering where the downside is.

Insurance is irrelevant; if one (of the four) faction BCS drops from a properly fit mission tengu, you break even. Everything else is gravy.

How is high-sec getting less dangerous?

lol high sec ore?
2mil per load and too bulky to loot for the most part
more effective as bait than loot

I'm not talking about me, personally.
Making ISK in this game is stupidly easy once you reach critical mass.

But I'm considering all the gankers out there of limited means.

kind of like myself a few years ago, before I made my first 2-3 Billion ganking haulers.....until the carebears whined so incessantly that Concord got buffed and sec status penalties were massively increased.

Goons are right. This nerf won't stop ganking. But it will stop SOME people from ganking. Newer players. Poorer players. Which means less of it, and less people getting into it early. Which is bad, because highsec is ridiculously safe already.

About the only way to get ganked in highsec is if you are stupid, AFK and/or greedy.

Take a potshot at a ninja, get ganked, then cry to CCP.
Steal from a wreck, get ganked, then cry to CCP.
Mine AFK with crappy fittings, get ganked, then cry to CCP.
Fly around in an untanked hauler with millions in it, get ganked, then cry to CCP.

Its an old song, and it gets tiresome because CCP always seems to eventually come through with the baby bottle....shifts the goalposts towards Hello Kitty, and then the whines start anew, almost immediately.....when someone gets ganked.

Go to lowsec, they say. Low sec is where you go for fights, not tears.
Nobody in lowsec gives a crap if you blow up their T1 Rupture or Rifter.

But if you blow up a highsec Deadspace fit CNR worth billions - or a Hulk that some poor miner slaved for days to buy - that is where the tears flow like honey.

Pop those Mission Boats!

A pair of Tornados can instapop an active tanked Tengu, just as Tempests can now - except Tornados lock faster.

Just sit outside a station with a buddy, in Tornados, directly infront of the exit, 30 KM out.
Fit Tracking Computers/SEBOs/and Passive lock.

The minute the Tengu start to align, simultaneously lock, with guns on standby. Passive sensor means you'll likely catch him with Hardeners off for an easy kill. Scoop and win at EVE. Easier than catching them in a mission because they are likely moving - impairing tracking, and also likely have hardeners on. Further, two Tornados showing up in mission space might cause the victim to bolt. Two Tornados outside a busy station? Not particularly suspicious.

Same works for Marauders and CNRs, just bring 5 of em to be sure.

I think you're having trouble reading what he actually wrote.

And isn't this how it should be? If anything, nerf the ISK-making potential of highsec.

Hoo my goodness poor mercs...If you don't have concord candies anymore for criminal acts: null sec/low sec wishes you "welcome". -stop harassing newb corps or industrials just go to serious business.

Grow a pair go there or stop wining, Mitani will wish you the most welcome, you have the options but you don't pick them because...??



Action = Consequence



It's not a nerf, it's a due. Gank is currently used to harass players not willing to play YOUR game has YOU want, you want to farm easy km's? -you pick the isk out of your pockets, not from concord for criminal acts.
That's how it should work from the begining.

Be creative and stop wining, choose your targets and use ratios, engage at your own risks or profits.

Griefer tears best tears.

I don't see how an insurance nerf makes it more wow like. Surely its the opposite? Ganking now isn't 100% profit making.

Now real effort is needed to continuously wardec newb corps, witch was completely silly.

Blah blah blah high sec old corps industrials miners etc? - the choice is there: low sec/null sec

It's a very nice way to improve low sec/null sec, force pee vee peer's to go there where pee vee pee goes, so I think all this stuff is very good for newbies and real casuals staying in high sec has is good to improve low/null activity.

Most probably they're just afraid of loosing shiny stuff vs armys of rifters? - adapt or die, this is what they always say.