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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#21 - 2014-01-07 20:11:38 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
If you don't want them to get the KM, stop them from killing it.

^^
This.
Man-up and fight for your stuffs. Or watch it become other peoples' stuffs (including KMs).


::effort::

Please remember, this is Highsec we are talking about.

:: facepalm ::

Of course. How silly of me. Oops

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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#22 - 2014-01-07 20:11:43 UTC
I have seen kills on the players that do this kind of thing (shooting MTUs). Sentry drones can do miracles.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#23 - 2014-01-07 20:13:16 UTC
Katrina Warsong wrote:
Hello everyone,

When doing some mindless carebearing in l4s some random guy got in and flagged him self in hope of me taking the bait, bothered by my ignorance he destroyed the MTU i had on the field. Didn't bother me either since it had only junk inside. Only later i noticed the loss in my kill mails.

Personally i think it's an unfairly easy +1 kill.

Why don't these things get protected by concord rules?
Shooting an MTU gives a suspect flag, not a Concord response, this is by design.
Quote:
Why are you free to get a +1 kill on pilot owned object?
Killing the MTU isn't the aim of the exercise, catching someone with their pants down, IE: with their drones set to aggressive and dumb enough not to recall them, or just plain silly enough to take a pot shot and start a limited engagement is.

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#24 - 2014-01-07 20:41:44 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Ptraci wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
If you don't want them to get the KM, stop them from killing it.


Or kill it yourself? Do you go suspect if you shoot your own MTU? I'll have to try this.


or just don't deploy it?



A true killmail "another word for female sex worker" will "female sex worker" on his own killmails, of course :P
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#25 - 2014-01-07 21:11:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Tippia wrote:
Katrina Warsong wrote:
Why don't these things get protected by concord rules?
Because they're meant to be easy to attack and to work as conflict creators.

Quote:
Why are you free to get a +1 kill on pilot owned object?
Because it makes no real difference.



Are you sure about this difference?

From what I understand, the killboard addicts care about "green" on their board. Would an inconsequential kill that adds to this "green" not be just as bad as inconsequential ISK-earning of highsec (which the wallet-watchers equally obsess over)?


Of course an MTU (and I forgot all about them until this thread) is apt to be full of T1 salvage junk anyway, but I reckon that still "matters" to the KB addict just as much as ISK matters to people who won't tank their indy.

Can these things be looted instead? I wonder.


I am also willing to bet that maybe a day comes when we can remotely destroy before someone "get the KM on it" and the same people killing them will then be in here crying about it.

ISK and killmails... grrr get rid of kill mails and ISK fountains.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2014-01-07 22:38:01 UTC
If this occurred a lot, surely people would start putting MTUs out as bait.

Seems simple enough to do, deploy MTU in your mates mission and then cloak a PvP gank ship and wait for someone to shoot it.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#27 - 2014-01-07 23:41:51 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
If this occurred a lot, surely people would start putting MTUs out as bait.

Seems simple enough to do, deploy MTU in your mates mission and then cloak a PvP gank ship and wait for someone to shoot it.

Ssssh!
You're giving away the good secrets! Shocked

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I am disposable
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2014-01-08 00:02:01 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
If this occurred a lot, surely people would start putting MTUs out as bait.

Seems simple enough to do, deploy MTU in your mates mission and then cloak a PvP gank ship and wait for someone to shoot it.


I've yet to have anyone shoot my MTU on my mining alts, so I don't think this would be very productive.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#29 - 2014-01-08 00:11:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
You know you can just scoop it right?

When they start shooting at your MTU, just scoop it. Works a charm against me, I just leave and look for someone stupider.

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Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2014-01-08 02:03:51 UTC
What system is this heinous crime taking place?
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#31 - 2014-01-08 02:18:35 UTC
The only thing I see wrong here, OP, is that you seem to give a **** about kill mails.

Mr Epeen Cool
Lizard Terelli
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2014-01-08 02:22:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Lizard Terelli
kbw1: look, i had 500 MTU kills this month hah!
kbw2: stfu, i had +3000 MTU kills this month easy. im 31337..

edit: ninja'd by epeen

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#33 - 2014-01-08 03:11:31 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
The only thing I see wrong here, OP, is that you seem to give a **** about kill mails.

Mr Epeen Cool


Kill mails are fun to collect. They don't mean anything at all (except point out some of your more embarrassing fitting ideas). However they're good for making conversation or as memory aids so that you can remember a particular gudfite.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2014-01-08 04:40:52 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
I have seen kills on the players that do this kind of thing (shooting MTUs). Sentry drones can do miracles.


Depends. I nearly took out a Rattlesnake today doing this, and his sentries couldn't touch me. Although, I was in a Wolf and yes, after killing his sentries and the rest of the drones he launched against me, I was killing the Rattler.... until he had friends show up in a Thorax and a Vexor. Ended up having to settle for just killing the Vexor.

But at least they staged an effective defence, and an effective enough distraction that I had to let the Rattlesnake go.

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SpoonRECKLESS
Beach Boys
The Minions.
#35 - 2014-01-08 05:02:12 UTC
I say burn all of high sec and turn it into ash!!!

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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2014-01-08 05:24:48 UTC
Killmails are a joke and have been for some time. Prior to MTU and Siphons people, corporations and alliances could reach top of the killboards by shooting POS and POS structures. Last I checked the number one solo pilot on BC was a guy who had shot and killed 500 or so MTU :)

in short KBs are a joke much like average EvE PvP.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2014-01-08 05:34:40 UTC
I care about killmails. I care about the records, the memories, the statistics, the sharing of the experience, and yes sometimes even the bragging rights (on kills, not efficiency because that's meaningless). I like something I can point to and say "I was there."

So call me a killboard-whore. don't care what you say.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#38 - 2014-01-08 07:56:38 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I care about killmails. I care about the records, the memories, the statistics, the sharing of the experience, and yes sometimes even the bragging rights (on kills, not efficiency because that's meaningless). I like something I can point to and say "I was there."

So call me a killboard-*****. don't care what you say.

Agreeing with James here. Kill mails tell a story.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#39 - 2014-01-08 08:01:05 UTC
Confirmed: When you get 100 kills, CONCORD gives to a shiny medal.

However, dont mess with MTU

MTU has been know to stand for "Mess Thou Up"

MTU is a device we can trust

If you were running for office, MTU would vote for you

*****MTU for CSM*****

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tiberiusric
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#40 - 2014-01-08 10:24:20 UTC
so CCP remove can flipping but then actually bring it back in another form - priceless

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