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Drones are broken. Please fix them

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ALL SUPERCAPS JUMP
Wealth and Prosperity Inc.
#61 - 2014-01-07 19:06:07 UTC
Manfred Sideous wrote:
Despite what people think we simply use whatever ship comp we need to use to be able to handle the task at hand. When you are fighting a foe that brings Domis , Phoons , Tengus , Ishtars , Bombers , Ceptors & other fleet comps at the same time and outnumbers you on average 4:1 you need a durable fleet comp. Slowcats & Wrecking Ball provide that . The hostiles knowing we are going to bring slowcats have a multitude of options on how to deal with us. The most obvious one is using there own capitals and supercapitals. The gist is there is counterplay to slowcats and wreckingball. Which is the definition of balanced gameplay in a sandbox.



We understand it and we have no problem with you using best game mechanics against subcap blob.

CCP should somehow fix drone lags (they fixed missiles after-all).

Fights, when there are 180+ carriers bubbled by 100 man fleet (around 390 ppl in local, i was there) shouldn't cause 10% ti-di.
It should be brutal and fast, for both sides.
t'Infected Mushroom
Butterkist Delivery Services Inc.
#62 - 2014-01-07 19:06:46 UTC
Forum CTAs are bad, mmkay?
Sariah Eylaya
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#63 - 2014-01-07 19:07:03 UTC
All I see is butt hurt here. Drones are not broke. They just aren't how rusrus/goons like em.
6ypaTuHk0
Doomheim
#64 - 2014-01-07 19:12:03 UTC
Fix centry drones!
OR JITALAG!!1111Twisted
NaltDi
Russian Thunder Squad
Against ALL Authorities
#65 - 2014-01-07 19:12:59 UTC
Sariah Eylaya wrote:
All I see is butt hurt here. Drones are not broke. They just aren't how rusrus/goons like em.

So, 8 hours laggfest(30-40 min in eve) causing by 250 carriers is ok, and server working fine? 250 ships is creating laggs more than 2k f*ck*ng subcaps, do CCP think it's normal?
Seeker's's
Praid-inc
#66 - 2014-01-07 19:14:57 UTC
NaltDi wrote:
Sariah Eylaya wrote:
All I see is butt hurt here. Drones are not broke. They just aren't how rusrus/goons like em.

So, 8 hours laggfest(30-40 min in eve) causing by 250 carriers is ok, and server working fine? 250 ships is creating laggs more than 2k f*ck*ng subcaps, do CCP think it's normal?

Who needs subscribers, if there're drones.
BepLLluTeJIb
Ecliptic Control
Ferrata Victrix
#67 - 2014-01-07 19:15:02 UTC
lol. THis looks like:
- Fix TiDi and sentries. This ruins our game.
- No! you are crying.
Skia Aumer
Planetary Harvesting and Processing LLC
#68 - 2014-01-07 19:15:58 UTC
I'm not totally sure that drones are the cause for 10% tidi, but the fact is that for CCP it is not a priority to make nullsec blob fights fun and enjoyable. Look at CCP Seagull's Vision if you dont believe me. So if you desire for epic fights - you've chosen the wrong game. Nullsec dwellers are only about 10% of all EVE population, so it's not a problem for CCP if you all quit. Yes, there will be no Asakai headlines in newspapers, but whatever... they didnt want them anyway.

Or did they?

Also, for PL. I know you are quite dumb - down to a level to post "RUCK FUSSIA" in local - but I will help you a little. RUSRUS worst problem is the ridiculously strong spider tank of Archons, not the drones. And yeah, Goons conspiracy is real, no sh*t.
Sariah Eylaya
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#69 - 2014-01-07 19:17:31 UTC
CCP reinforced 6VDT and it was still hours and hours of lag. you load a server with uber amounts of ships and items and your going to get lag anyway. Tis part of EVE life. *insert deal with it meme here*
Tatovkin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#70 - 2014-01-07 19:17:56 UTC
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#71 - 2014-01-07 19:20:48 UTC
Tatovkin wrote:
http://clip2net.com/clip/m0/1389122253-clip-189kb.jpg


post more pictures from 8 hours mass battles, they are pretty
Nassau Adtur
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#72 - 2014-01-07 19:20:54 UTC
Fix them - lags and crashes. Please do.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#73 - 2014-01-07 19:21:50 UTC
did manny ping minusten or something

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
gr ant
Perkone
Caldari State
#74 - 2014-01-07 19:23:31 UTC
This is my impression of a DD/AAA RUSRUS poster.

I ctupid, and cpell centry drone with c
Sur Jel
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#75 - 2014-01-07 19:23:33 UTC
Bombers cause more lag then drones
everytime you launch a bomb at a huge group, especially against drones, the server needs to handle 3000+ damage reports PER bomb launched. A group of 20 bombers launching bombs at our slowcats will cause 60k damage reports at the same time.
I've seen this before: No lag in System, hostiles bring in bombers and bomb our fleets that are shooting SBUs --> TIDI. lots of tidi (even if there are no killmails).

Also, if you or your allies bomb our drones, naturally we will redeploy them.
So that's causing TWICE or THREE times the lag (damage notification, removing the drone from space and redeploying it) with absolutely no effect because our slowcats have 2k+ drones ready.



In this case, it's not drones that are broken, it's not the game either. It's how CFC and their allies play the game.
ALL SUPERCAPS JUMP
Wealth and Prosperity Inc.
#76 - 2014-01-07 19:25:15 UTC
gr ant wrote:
This is my impression of a DD/AAA RUSRUS poster.

I ctupid, and cpell centry drone with c


Funny to hear it from BUSA member, haha
Sarah Nahrnid
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#77 - 2014-01-07 19:26:13 UTC
Tatovkin wrote:
http://clip2net.com/clip/m0/1389122253-clip-189kb.jpg


I was there for that fight
So, lets consider that picture for a moment.

Yes, there is a stream of abandoned drones ensure you read that, abandoned that word is critical now

That was also a fleet of 250 people, lets put our attention to local, 1485.

1485 people, all who are inputting commands from all over the world into a single node.
Now, you want something to be done about lag when that single node needs to calculate every single thing that each pilot is doing and also send that out to every single pilot all in real time.

So please tell me more about how drones are broken.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#78 - 2014-01-07 19:26:23 UTC
doesn't that make drones broken if they can only be countered by lag inducing AoE damage

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
penifSMASH
ElitistOps
Deepwater Hooligans
#79 - 2014-01-07 19:26:36 UTC
I thought it was titans bumping each other that cause lag? Or was it the changing vectors of alignment? Your story changes every week and it is as if you have no clue what is actually happening!
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#80 - 2014-01-07 19:28:36 UTC
I learned undocking causes lag in eve too. Nerf undocking.