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Drones are broken. Please fix them

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Ranger64511
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2014-01-07 18:31:54 UTC
ALL SUPERCAPS JUMP wrote:
Some of you too blind to see the message.

We do not ask for sentry/carriers, etc nerf


We want carriers to cause less lags, while saving their characteristics.




ALL SUPERCAPS JUMP wrote:


may be make less drones for carriers, while boosting their(drones) dps/ehp?




LOL Nice contradiction there buddy.

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Kat Ayclism
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2014-01-07 18:33:48 UTC
Mystic Rebel wrote:
PL have a forum CTA or something?

Hi Pot, my name's Kettle.


Quote:
You can't be that stupid not to notice the fact that drones cause 80% of the lags, not 2k ppl.

So there is never tidi when like 100 subcaps do something outrageous like... undock? And there's never any tidi with 2k people as long as there's no slowcats there?

You're deluded at worst, mentally challenged at best if you genuinely think that.

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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2014-01-07 18:36:18 UTC
Kat Ayclism wrote:
Mystic Rebel wrote:
PL have a forum CTA or something?

Hi Pot, my name's Kettle.


Quote:
You can't be that stupid not to notice the fact that drones cause 80% of the lags, not 2k ppl.

So there is never tidi when like 100 subcaps do something outrageous like... undock? And there's never any tidi with 2k people as long as there's no slowcats there?

You're deluded at worst, mentally challenged at best if you genuinely think that.




Carriers make lag titans make crash. (didnt you know that)
ALL SUPERCAPS JUMP
Wealth and Prosperity Inc.
#44 - 2014-01-07 18:37:32 UTC  |  Edited by: ALL SUPERCAPS JUMP
Ranger64511 wrote:
ALL SUPERCAPS JUMP wrote:
Some of you too blind to see the message.

We do not ask for sentry/carriers, etc nerf


We want carriers to cause less lags, while saving their characteristics.




ALL SUPERCAPS JUMP wrote:


may be make less drones for carriers, while boosting their(drones) dps/ehp?




LOL Nice contradiction there buddy.



I mean carrier using only 5 drones(for example), while having additional bonuses to sentry ehp/dps

What don't you like about that?
michael chasseur
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2014-01-07 18:41:58 UTC
the irony is for all the g00n bleating about generating tears, they cry more strongly per-capita than any other entity in the game
Tiberu Stundrif
Nifty Idustries
Pandemic Horde
#46 - 2014-01-07 18:42:02 UTC
Create a stacking penalty for Drone Link Augmenters.

Being able to fight from Close to Super Long Range with one ship is game-breaking for null-sec fights.
homa killer
DARK TEMPL
Ferrata Victrix
#47 - 2014-01-07 18:42:12 UTC  |  Edited by: homa killer
Fix centry drones! No Lags!

to divide drone bay into fighters and drones
Manfred Sideous
H A V O C
Fraternity.
#48 - 2014-01-07 18:43:44 UTC
Despite what people think we simply use whatever ship comp we need to use to be able to handle the task at hand. When you are fighting a foe that brings Domis , Phoons , Tengus , Ishtars , Bombers , Ceptors & other fleet comps at the same time and outnumbers you on average 4:1 you need a durable fleet comp. Slowcats & Wrecking Ball provide that . The hostiles knowing we are going to bring slowcats have a multitude of options on how to deal with us. The most obvious one is using there own capitals and supercapitals. The gist is there is counterplay to slowcats and wreckingball. Which is the definition of balanced gameplay in a sandbox.


Now drones are entities much like missiles once were. The same missiles AAA & Stainwagon used with wild abandon despite the fact that using a missile based concept caused massive lag. They didn't use missile base ships to intentionally cause lag they used them because it was the best tool they had at their disposal. Do drones need to be reworked so they don't create excessive server load? Maybe so maybe not only CCP can answer that. As CCP stated in regards to the last few node crashes they had nothing to do with server load and everything to do with a error in the code.



I think the discussion CCP is having about drone assign is the correct approach. Its not a question of is this or that overpowered . Instead they are looking at it from the pov of : How much control should of your ship should you give over to another person. So things like fleet warps are part of that question. I personally think bombers are way overpowered. In heavy TIDI there is near 0 counterplay to stopping bombers. Since bombers can warp cloaked together you have 0 warning till they decloak and launch bombs and tidi removes the problem of having fast reactions. So bombers are already prepared to drop their bombs and warp off.

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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#49 - 2014-01-07 18:44:12 UTC
Tiberu Stundrif wrote:
Create a stacking penalty for Drone Link Augmenters.

Being able to fight from Close to Super Long Range with one ship is game-breaking for null-sec fights.


forming a coalition of 65000 dudes is game-breaking too, so what? Should we start threads on forums about it?
Lezari
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#50 - 2014-01-07 18:45:00 UTC
As a member of the most spacerelevant alliance in this game i approve of the rusrus / CFC tears Lol
Sarah Nahrnid
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#51 - 2014-01-07 18:45:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarah Nahrnid
homa killer wrote:
Fix centry drones! No Lags!


How about this, instead of crying on forums, why don't you attack us again? Or waterboard us and feed us another 4+ pages of kills or as someone else said, use a hard counter to what we're bringing. Not our fault you refuse to escalate.

You want to talk about lag? How about your 1200+ dudes against our ~250 using the same **** we were, drone concepts.

Fact is, when you cram that many people into a system, it causes lag! Who'd have known?!
Ever seen jita with >1500 people, there's TiDi.
homa killer
DARK TEMPL
Ferrata Victrix
#52 - 2014-01-07 18:48:57 UTC
we now speak not about number and about lags from use of a large number of drones
CM 6unk
Perkone
Caldari State
#53 - 2014-01-07 18:52:00 UTC
FIX FCK TiDi
really. its f tard sh1t when fight that can of for 3-4 hours long like 12-15.
+ its not naturalistic when pill can jump from portal in tidi system immediately

IF TiDi ON SOMEWHERE IT WILL BE ON AT ALL NEW EDEM !!!!!
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#54 - 2014-01-07 18:52:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert Caldera
this thread is nothing but "WE CANT KILL THEM; CCP PLS HALP"

@RUS RUS: maybe you should go fight goons 1000 megathrons, I guess you would come to forums and whine again, right?
penifSMASH
ElitistOps
Deepwater Hooligans
#55 - 2014-01-07 18:56:22 UTC
hahahha

I really wish I could speak Russian because I can only imagine what the cryhard tears on eve-ru are like
Aioi Yukko
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#56 - 2014-01-07 18:57:44 UTC
1500 domis vs 250 carriers......

hmmmmm

I wonder what creates more "centry" drone lag......

TEST Damage Control Team of Forum Warrior.

Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#57 - 2014-01-07 18:57:51 UTC
homa killer wrote:
we now speak not about number and about lags from use of a large number of drones


Well, you do talk about numbers, you remember? You or someone else of DoD-A- said that the other party uses too many sentries. On the other hand, they are just evening out the numbers in the systems. You bring 2k members, they bring 250 + 5times that in drones, where 1 drone equals 1 player.

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Ivan Tkanschuk
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#58 - 2014-01-07 18:58:59 UTC
Fix centry drones!
Abette
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2014-01-07 19:02:57 UTC
Oh ****, we're losing! Quick, cry to ccp on the forums so they edit the game to where we can win! (Spoiler alert: you'll still lose)


Pathetic, look at yourselves, posting a ******* CTA to cry on the forums. Look at what you've become.
penifSMASH
ElitistOps
Deepwater Hooligans
#60 - 2014-01-07 19:03:53 UTC
If anyone is wondering what this thread is about:

In two months of bloody SOV warfare and countless nights spent alarm clocking, they have flipped one station in exchange for 200 dead dreads and 40 massacred supercarriers. They can't win on TQ so they pinged their own jabber channels to bump and spam this thread with the assistance of google translate