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Drones are broken. Please fix them

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Dirk Action
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-01-07 17:58:42 UTC
lol
Kat Ayclism
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2014-01-07 17:58:45 UTC
Where is all this lag when there's not 1500 people in local?
Sala Cameron
Free-Space-Ranger
#23 - 2014-01-07 17:59:58 UTC
Mystic Rebel wrote:
Last time we escalated with 250 dreads, N3 escalated with 40 titans and then what? Exactly, node crashed 10-15 minutes later.

I'm pretty sure neither N3 nor PL enjoy 1% lagfests till 6am, but on the other hand you have no more options left other than abusing carrier fleets. Ok, no problem, but lets ask CCP to fix massive drone blobs at least.


This is not the evil you're looking for https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4021826#post4021826
Elektrea
Tech Builds
Pandemic Horde
#24 - 2014-01-07 18:01:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Elektrea
Mystic Rebel wrote:
Last time we escalated with 250 dreads, N3 escalated with 40 titans and then what? Exactly, node crashed 10-15 minutes later.


CCP Veritas wrote:
It's worth noting that in all recent events it hasn't been the high load that directly causes the node death, but rather errors in the programming that only express at high load or in the kind of highly complex scenarios that large fights contain.


So your argument boils down to you having no more people to bring in, so you cry on the forums to get stuff you want nerfed? Goon culture spreading everywhere Blink
Elektrea
Tech Builds
Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2014-01-07 18:02:29 UTC
edit:double
Li Anderson
Watch your six
Ferrata Victrix
#26 - 2014-01-07 18:05:09 UTC
1Of9 wrote:

Now getting owned by sentry drones .. what do to? lemme see.. AH YES! let's bat phone CCP once more. ALWAYS WORKED IN THE PAST why not once more?
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Fix centry lags = nerfing centry?
Dude, u mad? :)
NaltDi
Russian Thunder Squad
Against ALL Authorities
#27 - 2014-01-07 18:06:37 UTC
Make war not drones
Mystic Rebel
Galaxy in danger proj.
#28 - 2014-01-07 18:06:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Mystic Rebel
PL have a forum CTA or something?
You can't be that stupid not to notice the fact that drones cause 80% of the lags, not 2k ppl.

Please recall the initial GE-8 fight with 3k ppl involved and how everything worked relatively smooth and playable. Then compare it to either KW-I or DY- battles, which both went terribad.

I'm not even talking about reworking drone assist. I'm trying to draw CCP's attention to the fact, that server does not cope with additional 2.5-3k objects on grid which are drones. So maybe reduce/group them down to 250-300 objects?
Vurdalak14
The Twelve Chairs
#29 - 2014-01-07 18:07:56 UTC
fix gate in system to max like jitaLol
BepLLluTeJIb
Ecliptic Control
Ferrata Victrix
#30 - 2014-01-07 18:10:36 UTC
Wanna td 10%? Take full fleet of carries, deploy 6k+ sentries. Profit!
Wanna crush noda? Portal 50+ titans. Profit!
This game is broken.. Really.
ALL SUPERCAPS JUMP
Wealth and Prosperity Inc.
#31 - 2014-01-07 18:11:08 UTC  |  Edited by: ALL SUPERCAPS JUMP
Elektrea wrote:
So your argument boils down to you having no more people to bring in, so you cry on the forums to get stuff you want nerfed? Goon culture spreading everywhere Blink




We don't ask for drones/carriers or drone assist nerf.

We understand and respect you and your tactics (Wrecking Ball is so badass imo) against subcap blob.

We just ask to fix huge amount of lags that can bring only 200 ppl by deploying 2000+ objects(drones).

ti di 10% with only 500ppl in local, do u really like it?

may be make less drones for carriers, while boosting their(drones) dps/ehp?
Dalilah
Wormhole Security Management
#32 - 2014-01-07 18:14:05 UTC
HY RWO wrote:
are you sure the lag is not from the 1500 blue you have in local?

There are many examples that TiDi grows only due drone lags and slightly depends of local numbers. Drones are one of my favorite weapons in this game but TiDi ruines all fun when you try to using drones in massive battles.

HY RWO
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2014-01-07 18:17:17 UTC
BRING BACK AEO REMOTE DD's will fix EVERYTHING
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#34 - 2014-01-07 18:19:13 UTC
Mystic Rebel wrote:
E.i. creating massive lag in nullsec warfare and causing node crashes, thus making the most advertised aspect of this game completly unplayable.

Your current work looks like this: https://cloclo9.datacloudmail.ru/weblink/view/78b637324992/in_ccp_we_trust.png

But you need to address this issue asap. One of possible solutions: enable drone grouping option like it was done with guns or something similar.


"nerf their guns, too stronk"
Pol Tenkersly
Glory Hole Stopf Service
#35 - 2014-01-07 18:20:40 UTC
Fix centry drones! No Lags!
Manfred Sideous
H A V O C
Fraternity.
#36 - 2014-01-07 18:24:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Manfred Sideous
AAA just pinged a forum CTA lol

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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2014-01-07 18:25:04 UTC
CCP has stated its not the drones or number of drones, its errors that come when trying to process that many units on field at once, which they are fixing.

They also stated the BIGGEST load experienced in large fights, that is MOST LIKELY to result in node crash, is when a large number of people enter/leave the system at once.

so nerf escalations/JB/cyno, anything that involves moving 1500 people ahlfway across the map with minimal post-setup effort to fight any war ever.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#38 - 2014-01-07 18:25:13 UTC
and how would this fix look like?

UI Improvement Collective

My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
Mystic Rebel
Galaxy in danger proj.
#39 - 2014-01-07 18:26:51 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
CCP has stated its not the drones or number of drones, its errors that come when trying to process that many units on field at once, which they are fixing.

SO WHY NOT REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF UNITS AS WELL?
ALL SUPERCAPS JUMP
Wealth and Prosperity Inc.
#40 - 2014-01-07 18:26:52 UTC
Some of you too blind to see the message.

We do not ask for sentry/carriers, etc nerf


We want carriers to cause less lags, while saving their characteristics.