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Drones are broken. Please fix them

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Mystic Rebel
Galaxy in danger proj.
#1 - 2014-01-07 17:41:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Mystic Rebel
E.i. creating massive lag in nullsec warfare and causing node crashes, thus making the most advertised aspect of this game completly unplayable.

Your current work looks like this: https://cloclo9.datacloudmail.ru/weblink/view/78b637324992/in_ccp_we_trust.png

But you need to address this issue asap. One of possible solutions: enable drone grouping option like it was done with guns or something similar.
1Of9
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2014-01-07 17:45:53 UTC  |  Edited by: 1Of9
uaaaaaaaaaau .. tears ... so delicious

nom nom nom


anyway, on a more serious note.
CCP nerfed areaDD at goons request, because, well, goons could not win.
CCP nerfed sensor boosters at goons request, well, you know, old vets like BoB could pwn them too far away since they didn't had the skills :THEHORROR:..

Then goons discover that NANO was too much, they where getting owned left and right in their ratting pastures. :cry cry cry: and CCP nerfs.

Goons jump into a system bubbled? too many bubbles? NO PROBLEMO, batphone CCP they will remove them for us.

Now getting owned by sentry drones .. what do to? lemme see.. AH YES! let's bat phone CCP once more. ALWAYS WORKED IN THE PAST why not once more?

Next on the cry list: REMOVE caps from game, since goons out number everyone, it's game over for everyone else.

Then, remove MWD, make sure hostiles cant run away.

Why not nerf skilling speed? OLDER chars like SirMolle etc can skill SLOWER so goons and buddies catch up?

Why not make WARP BUBBLES affect only the hostiles and NOT those that are blue to the bubble owner? Goons love sabres..
Real Slavickus
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
#3 - 2014-01-07 17:45:59 UTC
I hereby approve this statement.
HY RWO
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-01-07 17:46:21 UTC
inb4 lock
Elektrea
Tech Builds
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2014-01-07 17:46:22 UTC
Hey did you know ccp admitted it was actually a game bug that crashed the servers and has been patched out?

Well ****.. any other arguments?
Sala Cameron
Free-Space-Ranger
#6 - 2014-01-07 17:46:24 UTC
ok
Kearl
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#7 - 2014-01-07 17:48:31 UTC
es·ca·late (sk-lt)
v. es·ca·lat·ed, es·ca·lat·ing, es·ca·lates
v.tr.
To increase, enlarge, or intensify: escalated the hostilities in the Persian Gulf.
v.intr.
To increase in intensity or extent: "a deepening long-term impasse that is certain to escalate" (Stewart L. Udall).
HY RWO
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-01-07 17:48:43 UTC
drones are broken so lets all use them and create more the the game breaking lag we dont want.
Dedora
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-01-07 17:48:45 UTC
Kill assist!
Mutafakaz
Russian Thunder Squad
Against ALL Authorities
#10 - 2014-01-07 17:49:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutafakaz
supporting this

every major 0.0 fight with use of carriers or other drone-dependant formation turns out into 8+ hours lagfest with 1% TiDi till the crash of node.
But in case of subcapital droneships it can be countered somehow with bombs because of limited drone supply. In case of carriers it cannot be countered at all because of limitless carrier dronebay + hangar bay space.
Also it leads to "deploy - abandon" exploit, when carriers deliberately deploy drones and abandon them to cause node crash.

As i see it - carriers should be fixed like supercarriers and limited to fighters only, plus fighter stats can be doubled and carriers limited to 5 drones max to reduce amount of lag.
Clith
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-01-07 17:50:32 UTC
The problem is client-side lag, not server-side.
Turn off drone models and their brackets. Problem solved
gormidont
2x100in1Glass
Chiffas.
#12 - 2014-01-07 17:50:43 UTC
Approved. This is ruining all fun of nullsec wars
HY RWO
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2014-01-07 17:50:45 UTC
are you sure the lag is not from the 1500 blue you have in local?
Unionn
Celestial Bureaucracy
#14 - 2014-01-07 17:51:30 UTC
Fix centry drones!
HugeQ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-01-07 17:52:51 UTC
fix the drones!
Tomas West
Nezlamni
UA Fleets
#16 - 2014-01-07 17:53:38 UTC
Don't fix drones please.
I think the most important now is adding +2 pg for Punisher, and +20 scan res for Merlin.
HY RWO
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2014-01-07 17:53:57 UTC
bring back AOE DD's
Mystic Rebel
Galaxy in danger proj.
#18 - 2014-01-07 17:54:28 UTC
Last time we escalated with 250 dreads, N3 escalated with 40 titans and then what? Exactly, node crashed 10-15 minutes later.

I'm pretty sure neither N3 nor PL enjoy 1% lagfests till 6am, but on the other hand you have no more options left other than abusing carrier fleets. Ok, no problem, but lets ask CCP to fix massive drone blobs at least.
Mystic Rebel
Galaxy in danger proj.
#19 - 2014-01-07 17:55:34 UTC
Clith wrote:
The problem is client-side lag, not server-side.
Turn off drone models and their brackets. Problem solved

This is so completly wrong. The problem is TD, which is totally server side. Client FPS with drone models and brackets off is fine.
ALL SUPERCAPS JUMP
Wealth and Prosperity Inc.
#20 - 2014-01-07 17:58:19 UTC
1Of9 wrote:
uaaaaaaaaaau .. tears ... so delicious

nom nom nom


anyway, on a more serious note.
CCP nerfed areaDD at goons request, because, well, goons could not win.
CCP nerfed sensor boosters at goons request, well, you know, old vets like BoB could pwn them too far away since they didn't had the skills :THEHORROR:..

Then goons discover that NANO was too much, they where getting owned left and right in their ratting pastures. :cry cry cry: and CCP nerfs.

Goons jump into a system bubbled? too many bubbles? NO PROBLEMO, batphone CCP they will remove them for us.

Now getting owned by sentry drones .. what do to? lemme see.. AH YES! let's bat phone CCP once more. ALWAYS WORKED IN THE PAST why not once more?

Next on the cry list: REMOVE caps from game, since goons out number everyone, it's game over for everyone else.

Then, remove MWD, make sure hostiles cant run away.

Why not nerf skilling speed? OLDER chars like SirMolle etc can skill SLOWER so goons and buddies catch up?

Why not make WARP BUBBLES affect only the hostiles and NOT those that are blue to the bubble owner? Goons love sabres..




System with 8000+ abandoned sentry drones was lagging whole day (until they were removed by petition)
With only 50 ppl in local, grid was loading for a few minutes. Do you really like it that way?


There is no need to fix carriers or drone assist...just fix lags caused by them, goddamit!
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