Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Good. The more irrelevant and useless these two deployables, the better.

Is this, the POS revamp

Dude, they're overpowered. Even with only 1 hp they'd be still overpowered.

They scale exponentially with the number of players (and the number of players on a node is theorically unlimioted). Each player (ANY player, no requirement) can deploy several jump unit and each jump unit can be used by an ublimited number of players. In EVE hisory this kind of items acting as multiplier always been abused.

And this had to be enough to never bring this **** on the design table.

We don't need to define specific tactics now to understand this (btw I think they'll be more a tool to close in more than to disengage); people will build MJU grids, jump chains and so on, till the point to override the "traditional" range control in EVE combat.

Maybe they won't get used. Hopefully they won't. Good riddance.

I like these two mobile deployables. They seem functionally suitable for the limited applications that they are designed for while still allowing people to be creative with their actual use.

Mobile Micro Jump Unit:

For example, the Mobile Micro Jump Unit is useful for escaping from an inattentive or indecisive skirmish tackler (or gang), but it is sufficiently vulnerable that focused enemy aggression can destroy it before it becomes operational (i.e. it can easily be destroyed during the 60s activation timer), thereby preventing conceivable get-out-of-jail-free overtanking+MJU abuses.

One can also imagine that the Mobile Micro Jump Unit still can be set up on a grid like an FW grid to establish favourable positioning for activities like sniping or *shudders* long ranged ECM. Similarly, super-long range ships become somewhat more theoretically interesting in a FW context than before, given what might be possible with suitable preparation.

Although somewhat less useful on normal grids, the Mobile Micro Jump Unit could also nonetheless serve some purpose when used in conjunction with larger slower ships by enabling them to establish sufficient range for performing an on-grid relocation via a post-MJU tactical warp... without, in such case, relying excessively upon alts, fleet members, or warpback bookmarks.

Mobile Scan Inhibitor:

Regarding the Mobile Scan Inhibitor, I am pleased with the balance parameters for cost and duration of use relative to its power level.

As others have noted, the Mobile Scan Inhibitor can allow a fleet to conceal its composition in nullsec or in FW against aggressors. While I dislike this concept as a small gang or solo pilot, I think that the 15M cost and 1h duration are meaningful balancing points that will deter the average user from simply spamming this deployable. In other words, there would have to be sufficient incentive for a collective of players to deploy the Mobile Scan Inhibitor, and in this capacity it affords an advantage for those who prepare accordingly.

Similarly, one can imagine numerous traps that the Mobile Scan Inhibitor makes possible, which I think is a fun concept given the cost and preparation required, relative to the limited duration.

yeah, things are already stacked ridiculously in favour of whoever it is that isn't roaming, at all levels of everything in eve.

This is probably the wrong place for it but I pretty frustrated by these statements.

I don't believe that. Example: Macintosh forum. Small but avid player group, but we don't get crap for responses. The biggest issue still is the freezing of the mac client which has been around awhile but still no official word about anything for the issue. You can't verify the local client issues even if you send you the logging files and sometimes the logging system is what also helps crash the client itself. I lost a nice ship due to this issue and guess what? All the GM's pretty much said was "clear your cache and cookies, no reimbursement for you!"

CSM/Windows users > Mac users? And I know that's generally how you all feel anyway.

How about you actually fix the mac client as this is breaking EVE just by itself. I'd love to hear back from you but I won't hold my hopes up high as CCP is getting really bad about feedback. (Rapid heavy missile launcher anyone?)

*Snip* Please refrain from posting GM correspondence. ISD Ezwal.

I am very much against this mods.... please fix wormhole space first and alliance bookmarks b4 wasting anymore time on this...

You just invaded someone else's wormhole
You deploy your MSI, or deploy several at multiple locations

The defenders know there is an MSI out there
They gain no intel on fleet composition
They will have conflicting intel on your fleet location

It can be a useful tool for aggressors
especially in preparation for engagement conditions

Also before introducing the Mobile Scan Inhibitor can combat probe results be fixed so as not to round to the nearest 64? Because that's really dumb.