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Returning from a long break,,,,, question about griefers
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#181 - 2014-01-07 01:08:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Jill Chastot wrote:

Big Fat NOOPEEE.

CCP doesn't play this game for us, it gives us the tools to do everything ourselves. It's your choice to use them or not.
Don't complain about things you didn't do, only things that you couldn't.

Example: probing down a titan and bumping it during E-Warp

Players use skills in fitting ships, scanning and organisation to destroy a titan ((albeit later being declared an exploit)
This was changed because the Titan pilot had no way to respond to the situation with systems disabled in E-Warp.)

Miner sucking rocks is bumped out of range,

CCP does nothing. Miner cries on forums. CCP still does nothing.

Let us analyze the differences, Miner could move to new system/space/area, Join a player corp and wardecc bumper, Could shoot him in the face and get concorded anyway, could hire mercs,. so forth.

Did Miner take any proactive steps to solve his problem?
Did Titan pilot take any proactive steps to solve his problem?

Could Miner take any proactive steps to solve his problem?
Could Titan pilot take any proactive steps to solve his problem?

Please refrain from using logic and reason in replies, it disturbs the creatures of the night natives and makes them restless post.

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Nerf Burger
Doomheim
#182 - 2014-01-07 01:16:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Nerf Burger
Jill Chastot wrote:


Big Fat DERP.



yea, tell that to my friends who I can't get to play EVE because none of them wants to ever be at the mercy of cowardly douchebags who take no risks and pay no real consequences for failure or success.

I guess CCP didn't want their money anyway? They would rather keep cowardly grief monkeys who are afraid of challenge happy? Like I said, hopefully CCP will pull their head out of their ass one of these days.
Jill Chastot
WE FORM BL0B Inc.
Goonswarm Federation
#183 - 2014-01-07 01:20:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Jill Chastot
Nerf Burger wrote:
Jill Chastot wrote:


Big Fat DERP.



yea, tell that to my friends who I can't get to play EVE because none of them wants to ever be at the mercy of cowardly douchebags who take no risks and pay no real consequences for failure or success.

I guess CCP didn't want their money anyway. They would rather keep cowardly grief monkeys who are afraid of challenge happy? Like I said, hopefully CCP will pull their head out of their ass one of these days.

so many nonsensical clowns.


Then man the **** up and do something that isn't moaning
that isn't moaning
that isn't moaning
that isn't moaning
that isn't moaning

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Nerf Burger
Doomheim
#184 - 2014-01-07 01:21:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Nerf Burger
Jill Chastot wrote:
Nerf Burger wrote:
Jill Chastot wrote:


Big Fat DERP.



yea, tell that to my friends who I can't get to play EVE because none of them wants to ever be at the mercy of cowardly douchebags who take no risks and pay no real consequences for failure or success.

I guess CCP didn't want their money anyway. They would rather keep cowardly grief monkeys who are afraid of challenge happy? Like I said, hopefully CCP will pull their head out of their ass one of these days.

so many nonsensical clowns.


Then man the **** up and do something that isn't moaning
that isn't moaning
that isn't moaning
that isn't moaning
that isn't moaning


hey aren't you just whining about valid complaints? pretty sure you are. But hey its typical for hypocritical self serving types to not have a problem with something that doesn't effect them in a negative way.
Jill Chastot
WE FORM BL0B Inc.
Goonswarm Federation
#185 - 2014-01-07 01:27:19 UTC
They're not valid cmplaints though, thats what my beef lies with.

If you and your friends aren't interested in standing up for yourselves why are you here?
You have access to everything everyone else does, your steadfast stance on doing absolutely nothing proactive about the situation and demanding that someone else do it for you is laughable.

Shall i go farm some sleepers for you to go pay for whatever you lost in time being bumped?

If the reason you want things to be changed is because you don't want to do anything for yourself you really don't belong here.

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Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#186 - 2014-01-07 01:33:02 UTC
Mining permits are bullshit. New Order crap is bullshit.
Nerf Burger
Doomheim
#187 - 2014-01-07 01:33:55 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dosnix
*snip*
Abusive Content deleted.
Please stay on topic.

Kind Regards
ISD dosnix
Paranoid Loyd
#188 - 2014-01-07 01:39:42 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dosnix
Nerf Burger wrote:
*snip*


So in essence, you want eve to be a single player game? I've got bad news, it's not. Blink

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#189 - 2014-01-07 01:41:33 UTC
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:
Mining permits are bullshit Emergent Gameplay. New Order crap is bullshit Emergent Gameplay.


Fixed
Paranoid Loyd
#190 - 2014-01-07 01:43:36 UTC
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:
Mining permits are bullshit. New Order crap is bullshit.


Show us on the mining barge doll where the New Order touched you. Lol

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

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Jill Chastot
WE FORM BL0B Inc.
Goonswarm Federation
#191 - 2014-01-07 01:43:40 UTC
Nerf Burger wrote:
Jill Chastot wrote:
They're not valid cmplaints though, thats what my beef lies with.

If you and your friends aren't interested in standing up for yourselves why are you here?


it has nothing to do with standing up for ourselves, you ridiculous clown. It is the fact that high sec "pirates" can't really be punished and take no risks and sometimes people just want to pve and not be ****** with. You have serious reading comprehension issues you need to work out before you reply in this thread any further.


Punished for what?

You want them punished for something you don't like. They take risks by playing the game in a way that inflames other players such as yourself.

Thing is you don't do anything about it.
Nerf Burger wrote:
it has nothing to do with standing up for ourselves,

How does it have nothing to do with not standing up for yourself? That mean old kid pushed you, and pushed you, and pushed you. You know spaceships have guns, try sticking one to him.

You are in EvE a MMO you don't have an option to PvE and not be messed with. That's not your desicion to make...

I have no problems in reading comprehension. You have a self entitled attitude is all.

If you approached this thread in a manner that you actually were looking at ways to fix your problems people would be more inclined to your "plight" (word used verrryyy loosely here.)

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#192 - 2014-01-07 01:49:51 UTC
Nerf Burger wrote:

yea, tell that to my friends who I can't get to play EVE because none of them wants to ever be at the mercy of cowardly douchebags who take no risks and pay no real consequences for failure or success.
Is this because you've told them how you think it is, or because they've tried and failed? I'd hazard a guess that the percentage of highsec carebears, myself included, being affected by the people you're calling douchebags more than once a year is tiny.

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I guess CCP didn't want their money anyway? They would rather keep cowardly grief monkeys who are afraid of challenge happy? Like I said, hopefully CCP will pull their head out of their ass one of these days.

so many nonsensical clowns.
The "cowardly grief monkey" dollar is just as strong as yours. Belligerent undesirable was a much better term btw, yours is trying way too hard to catch on.

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Nerf Burger
Doomheim
#193 - 2014-01-07 01:50:09 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dosnix
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Nerf Burger wrote:
Jill Chastot wrote:
They're not valid cmplaints though, thats what my beef lies with.

If you and your friends aren't interested in standing up for yourselves why are you here?


it has nothing to do with standing up for ourselves, you ridiculous clown. It is the fact that high sec "pirates" can't really be punished and take no risks and sometimes people just want to pve and not be ****** with. You have serious reading comprehension issues you need to work out before you reply in this thread any further.


So in essence, you want eve to be a single player game? I've got bad news, it's not. Blink


Try your hardest to comprehended this with that limited intelligence. Not everything in a mmorpg has has to be done with a group of people, especially a game touted as a "sandbox".
*snip*
Abusive Content fixed
ISD Dosnix
Jill Chastot
WE FORM BL0B Inc.
Goonswarm Federation
#194 - 2014-01-07 01:52:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Jill Chastot
Nerf Burger wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Nerf Burger wrote:
Jill Chastot wrote:
They're not valid cmplaints though, thats what my beef lies with.

If you and your friends aren't interested in standing up for yourselves why are you here?


it has nothing to do with standing up for ourselves, you ridiculous clown. It is the fact that high sec "pirates" can't really be punished and take no risks and sometimes people just want to pve and not be ****** with. You have serious reading comprehension issues you need to work out before you reply in this thread any further.


So in essence, you want eve to be a single player game? I've got bad news, it's not. Blink


not everything in a mmorpghas has to be done with a group of people, especially a game touted as a "sandbox".

If you weren't a moron you would understand this.


Nowhere does it say anything that has to happen within the game, you crossed the line when you asked for restrictions on how some other people play.

Who says your playstyle is any more right than theirs?

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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#195 - 2014-01-07 01:52:17 UTC
Nerf Burger wrote:
Jill Chastot wrote:
They're not valid cmplaints though, thats what my beef lies with.

If you and your friends aren't interested in standing up for yourselves why are you here?


it has nothing to do with standing up for ourselves, you ridiculous clown. It is the fact that high sec "pirates" can't really be punished and take no risks and sometimes people just want to pve and not be ****** with. You have serious reading comprehension issues you need to work out before you post on these forums any further.


Don't ******* play the game! Literally no one is going to miss you. The only thing you're good for is spewing vitriol all over the forums anyway. I am more than amused that you think your posts, which I am sure you believe to be jewels each and every one, are in any way going to convince anyone here to see things your way. *** Spoiler Alert *** They're not.

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Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#196 - 2014-01-07 01:57:21 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:
Mining permits are bullshit. New Order crap is bullshit.


Show us on the mining barge doll where the New Order touched you. Lol

I don't fly a mining barge. And please, I invite New Order pilots to come where I fly; Black Rise can always use more targets. Matter of fact, come to Tama. That's a nice quiet system to bump miners in. I'm sure you'll have a great time.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#197 - 2014-01-07 01:58:00 UTC
Nerf Burger wrote:
Jill Chastot wrote:


Big Fat DERP.



yea, tell that to my friends who I can't get to play EVE because none of them wants to ever be at the mercy of cowardly douchebags who take no risks and pay no real consequences for failure or success.

I guess CCP didn't want their money anyway? They would rather keep cowardly grief monkeys who are afraid of challenge happy? Like I said, hopefully CCP will pull their head out of their ass one of these days.

CCP has some words for this situation.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#198 - 2014-01-07 02:07:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Nerf Burger wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Nerf Burger wrote:
Jill Chastot wrote:
They're not valid cmplaints though, thats what my beef lies with.

If you and your friends aren't interested in standing up for yourselves why are you here?


it has nothing to do with standing up for ourselves, you ridiculous clown. It is the fact that high sec "pirates" can't really be punished and take no risks and sometimes people just want to pve and not be ****** with. You have serious reading comprehension issues you need to work out before you reply in this thread any further.


So in essence, you want eve to be a single player game? I've got bad news, it's not. Blink
He's right it's not a single player game.
Your assertion as to the risk and cost involved with ganking is questionable at best, it's down to players to provide the things that CCP don't. If they can't be bothered to do so then whose fault is it when ganking is seen as riskless? Beyond the shoot them anywhere sec status, suspect flags, not forgetting Concord and the faction police of course.

Quote:
Try your hardest to comphened this: Not everything in a mmorpg has has to be done with a group of people, especially a game touted as a "sandbox". Also, expecting everyone to have friends at their disposal for every mundane task is an unrealistic and moronic expectation.
As I understand it a sandbox means that an individual or group of individuals can try and play as they want to, it also means that I as an individual or as a member of a group can try and prevent them from doing so, because I can try and play as I want to. What do you think it means? If we can get to what you see the sandbox as then we might just get somewhere instead of calling each other names.

You also seem to be unfamiliar with the concept of a group being able to accomplish more than an individual, I find this puzzling because it's true in real life as well.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#199 - 2014-01-07 02:14:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
silens vesica wrote:
CCP has some words for this situation.
Ironically enough Nerf Burger doesn't appear to realise that her sig works both ways, and IIRC it's not the way she thinks it is, at least not context wise.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#200 - 2014-01-07 02:35:33 UTC
Nerf Burger wrote:
Kimmi Chan wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Bobby Frutt wrote:
2) Most griefers are somewhat sociopathic, mainly stemming from childhood issues such as bullying at school or a lack of proper parenting.
…and this is based on, what, exactly?


Hearsay and conjecture. Alternatively, it could be that it was just pulled from someones ass.


or you know... psychology textbooks. That is a serious case of denial you have. Are you really denying the existence of sociopaths? Lol

haven't you clowned yourself in this thread enough already? lol.

so many uneducated bumpkins in this thread.
No one denies it, just as no one would deny that murderers exist.
The problem you have is that you are comparing RL actions, with those that take place in a game. A game that is by design, a place that specifically allows for the shooting and killing of whomever you want, where ever you want, whenever you want.

Your stance is ridiculous, as you already agreed it was when I pointed out how it applied to chess players.

It's quite obvious you have little knowledge, in regards to conditions of the mind and their relation to game mechanics. For if you did, you wouldn't resort to name calling, but would instead post facts on the subject.

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