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Returning from a long break,,,,, question about griefers
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Rick II Egnald
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-01-06 06:16:00 UTC
I just started playing again after a 5 year break,,, I finally got myself up to a hulk to mine, and I only mine in .9 for now until I can train drones up enough to get some hobs for protection.


Anyways, I encountered this for the first time today....... some doorknob evidently finds great delight in ramming mining ships to keep knocking you out of mining distance...... this guy followed me around for an hour doing this and demandng a 10,000,000 ransom to stop.... you can't attack them in .9


Is this normal now?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#2 - 2014-01-06 06:18:14 UTC
Great post, thanks.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Capt Starfox
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2014-01-06 06:27:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Capt Starfox
Rick II Egnald wrote:
I just started playing again after a 5 year break,,, I finally got myself up to a hulk to mine, and I only mine in .9 for now until I can train drones up enough to get some hobs for protection.


Anyways, I encountered this for the first time today....... some doorknob evidently finds great delight in ramming mining ships to keep knocking you out of mining distance...... this guy followed me around for an hour doing this and demandng a 10,000,000 ransom to stop.... you can't attack them in .9


Is this normal now?


Please refer to GM's/Dev's response to bumping

High-sec mining permit is 10m/isk per year, per mining character. Payable to any agent of the New Order. You can refuse to pay, but risk bump and/or gank from members of said order.

Also Minerbumping

Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#4 - 2014-01-06 06:30:56 UTC
I also like your incorrect use of "griefers"

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-01-06 06:31:00 UTC
Rick II Egnald wrote:
Is this normal now?


I don't know which Eve you've been playing . . . its always been normal.

Honor is a fools prize. [I]Glory is of no use to the dead.[/I]

Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#6 - 2014-01-06 06:31:25 UTC
Well, good sir, it is your lucky day.

For 10mil isk, and your fealty to the Savior of High Sec, James 315, expressed in your bio...

You can mine with zero harassment for a year!!!!

Otherwise, Agents of the New Order will continue to bump you to prevent you from becoming bot-aspirant.

Permit tank is best tank. Don't risk a red pen violation. Also visit www.minerbumping.com, to learn about the Code, and how to make high-sec a better place for all!!!

As an added bonus, I now also offer forum permits for returning players.

To post in any manner you choose, you can pay an additional 10mil isk to me.

For this you must swear fealty to Unsuccessful At Everything as the saviour of General Discussion.

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#7 - 2014-01-06 06:38:55 UTC
Forum permits, huh

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Rick II Egnald
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-01-06 06:39:17 UTC
Judging by the replies... I see this mindset is normal for this game... thanks
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-01-06 06:41:25 UTC
Rick II Egnald wrote:
Judging by the replies... I see this mindset is normal for this game... thanks


It's not any different from 5 years ago :D

Honor is a fools prize. [I]Glory is of no use to the dead.[/I]

Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#10 - 2014-01-06 06:42:22 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Forum permits, huh


*Shrugs*

Sure why not. Lot of returning players lately.

Gives a 25% boost to shitpoasting for newcomers.

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#11 - 2014-01-06 06:48:01 UTC
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:
Rick II Egnald wrote:
Judging by the replies... I see this mindset is normal for this game... thanks

It's not any different from 5 years ago :D

Confirmed, it's a "waah james 315" troll.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#12 - 2014-01-06 06:50:47 UTC
Rick II Egnald wrote:
I just started playing again after a 5 year break,,, I finally got myself up to a hulk to mine, and I only mine in .9 for now until I can train drones up enough to get some hobs for protection.


Anyways, I encountered this for the first time today....... some doorknob evidently finds great delight in ramming mining ships to keep knocking you out of mining distance...... this guy followed me around for an hour doing this and demandng a 10,000,000 ransom to stop.... you can't attack them in .9


Is this normal now?

Griefing is against EULA & Bannable.

However.... He is not griefing if 'following you around' was in the same system.
If you traveled a large number of jumps trying to loose him, or he bumped you for an hour and wouldn't even let you warp back to station when he had no intent to gank you, that is.

So, if someone does it to you, just leave. Also, get a Retriever, not a Hulk, Hulks are for Null sec mining ops really. Where the speed matters and you have haulers to help move cargo.
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#13 - 2014-01-06 06:52:14 UTC  |  Edited by: KnowUsByTheDead
Alavaria Fera wrote:


Confirmed, it's a "waah james 315" troll.



Indeed, Alavaria.

And even after that insightful piece on TMC about killboards.

Some people just cannot be grateful.

Tears should be shed for James, though. The burden of high sec lays on his shoulders.

*edit*

Quote borked by forums. ::CCP::

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-01-06 06:56:05 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Rick II Egnald wrote:
I just started playing again after a 5 year break,,, I finally got myself up to a hulk to mine, and I only mine in .9 for now until I can train drones up enough to get some hobs for protection.


Anyways, I encountered this for the first time today....... some doorknob evidently finds great delight in ramming mining ships to keep knocking you out of mining distance...... this guy followed me around for an hour doing this and demandng a 10,000,000 ransom to stop.... you can't attack them in .9


Is this normal now?

Griefing is against EULA & Bannable.

However.... He is not griefing if 'following you around' was in the same system.
If you traveled a large number of jumps trying to loose him, or he bumped you for an hour and wouldn't even let you warp back to station when he had no intent to gank you, that is.

So, if someone does it to you, just leave. Also, get a Retriever, not a Hulk, Hulks are for Null sec mining ops really. Where the speed matters and you have haulers to help move cargo.


Bumping for an hour and/or over multiple systems without a reason is bannable. If you have a reason such as enforcing the will of the savior of highsec, AKA James 315, then it is perfectly legal and within the limits of the EULA/TOS.

Honor is a fools prize. [I]Glory is of no use to the dead.[/I]

Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#15 - 2014-01-06 07:01:01 UTC
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:


Bumping for an hour and/or over multiple systems without a reason is bannable. If you have a reason such as enforcing the will of the savior of highsec, AKA James 315, then it is perfectly legal and within the limits of the EULA/TOS.

No, even with reason it counts as harassment/griefing and is bannable if taken too far.

James 315 can not stalk people, nor 'happen' to have an alt in every system a particular miner flees to.

If he stakes out a system a week and moves systems every sunday, and they happen to pick the wrong next system, well that's a different thing, since the GM's can see his pattern of bumping. But a reason is not sufficient excuse to grief someone.
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#16 - 2014-01-06 07:03:17 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:


Bumping for an hour and/or over multiple systems without a reason is bannable. If you have a reason such as enforcing the will of the savior of highsec, AKA James 315, then it is perfectly legal and within the limits of the EULA/TOS.

No, even with reason it counts as harassment/griefing and is bannable if taken too far.

James 315 can not stalk people, nor 'happen' to have an alt in every system a particular miner flees to.

If he stakes out a system a week and moves systems every sunday, and they happen to pick the wrong next system, well that's a different thing, since the GM's can see his pattern of bumping. But a reason is not sufficient excuse to grief someone.


Wow!!!

So the Saviour himself was out bumping today?

Can someone get us confirmation of this?

Shocked

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-01-06 07:10:00 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:


Bumping for an hour and/or over multiple systems without a reason is bannable. If you have a reason such as enforcing the will of the savior of highsec, AKA James 315, then it is perfectly legal and within the limits of the EULA/TOS.

No, even with reason it counts as harassment/griefing and is bannable if taken too far.

James 315 can not stalk people, nor 'happen' to have an alt in every system a particular miner flees to.

If he stakes out a system a week and moves systems every sunday, and they happen to pick the wrong next system, well that's a different thing, since the GM's can see his pattern of bumping. But a reason is not sufficient excuse to grief someone.


It is completely within the EULA/TOS. I don't care how wrong you think I am, but I am right. I have had many harassment/griefer petitions filed against me but because I was enforcing the code and not doing it without a purpose they were all unfounded. I would go into it further but that would mean discussing GM stuff on the forums, which is against the EULA/TOS, unlike enforcing the CODE.

Honor is a fools prize. [I]Glory is of no use to the dead.[/I]

Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#18 - 2014-01-06 07:12:54 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:


Bumping for an hour and/or over multiple systems without a reason is bannable. If you have a reason such as enforcing the will of the savior of highsec, AKA James 315, then it is perfectly legal and within the limits of the EULA/TOS.

No, even with reason it counts as harassment/griefing and is bannable if taken too far.

James 315 can not stalk people, nor 'happen' to have an alt in every system a particular miner flees to.

If he stakes out a system a week and moves systems every sunday, and they happen to pick the wrong next system, well that's a different thing, since the GM's can see his pattern of bumping. But a reason is not sufficient excuse to grief someone.


Wow!!!

So the Saviour himself was out bumping today?

Can someone get us confirmation of this?

Shocked

quick, to minerbumping.com ?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#19 - 2014-01-06 07:18:10 UTC
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:


It is completely within the EULA/TOS. I don't care how wrong you think I am, but I am right. I have had many harassment/griefer petitions filed against me but because I was enforcing the code and not doing it without a purpose they were all unfounded. I would go into it further but that would mean discussing GM stuff on the forums, which is against the EULA/TOS, unlike enforcing the CODE.

See the above referred to GM posts on the topic.

The petitions you are talking about will have been miners whining because you bumped them for 5 minutes, then they warped to the other end of the ice field and you followed them, not stalking them for hours across new eden.
Which as I've already said about the former, doesn't count.
However the later does. Reason or not, you can't continually stalk someone like that just to bump them.
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-01-06 07:20:32 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:


It is completely within the EULA/TOS. I don't care how wrong you think I am, but I am right. I have had many harassment/griefer petitions filed against me but because I was enforcing the code and not doing it without a purpose they were all unfounded. I would go into it further but that would mean discussing GM stuff on the forums, which is against the EULA/TOS, unlike enforcing the CODE.

See the above referred to GM posts on the topic.

The petitions you are talking about will have been miners whining because you bumped them for 5 minutes, then they warped to the other end of the ice field and you followed them, not stalking them for hours across new eden.
Which as I've already said about the former, doesn't count.
However the later does. Reason or not, you can't continually stalk someone like that just to bump them.


Gee, can you please tell me how you know what petitions I'm talking about when I didn't provide links or give out specific details about them?

You know what assuming does . . .

Honor is a fools prize. [I]Glory is of no use to the dead.[/I]

Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager
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