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Desperate Scientists Try To Prove Their Theory Of “Everything”

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#121 - 2014-01-28 23:15:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Akita T wrote:
Actually, it *IS* way, waaaaay too much to ask for.
I mean, considering we're talking about the stage where you simply have to decide whether the Higgs Boson actually exists or not.


Necro thread!

Man I though you guy were done here when I posted last Shocked At any rate, I thought that this needed a quote because Akita has just demonstrated the "science faith" in full. Thank you Akita. Big smile In the holy doctrine of science we are supposed to believe that all things are explainable and quantifiable and nothing is beyond our (eventual) abilities to do so if given enough time and space. We are meant to believe in theories that cannot be proven because they "make sense" and have been "predicted". We are meant to bend knee to shotty circumstantial evidence and interactions that have never been seen or tested... like Higg's Boson interactions.

Amen.

Akita T wrote:
As far as "multidimensional universes" go, I'm not completely sure whether you mean just extra actual dimensions beyond our current perception, parallel universes, or a combination of those concepts? Either way, accurately DISPROVING any of that might be practically impossible, while proving any is contingent on them existing, and even if they do, interaction might be impossible so proving that might also be impossible.


Heh... kind of like a god hey? LolLolLolLolPPPP
That's just to damn funny. I have to remember this one for future forum signatures, counter arguments in debates and demotivators.

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#122 - 2014-01-28 23:22:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Akita T wrote:
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When exactly should the awards start being handed out again? Arbitrarily wait half a century longer? Or just wait until we're extra extra extra extra sure in 5 to 10 years? When is enough enough? The scientists said it's enough already. When will YOU be satisfied it's enough?



When you actually see the damn particle doing what the theory says it does... Straight

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#123 - 2014-01-28 23:32:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Akita T wrote:
Well, I suppose I can sometimes see why he thinks some things are flaws when they in fact are not.

That being said, the problem is (speaking from longer-term past experience, not just this particular thread), he seldom (if ever) acknowledges when he's clearly been proven to be wrong and just goes off on a different tangent.
Also, his (superficially"novel" and "insightful") ideas rarely even try to go past a "fast-food for thought" mental contortionist act, with no real attempt at a design of an experiment that could prove or disprove his ideas, let alone any practical application.
And THAT is a thing that doesn't really need any encouragement.

His threads are sadly generally limited to mere entertainment value and not much more.


This one is for Akita specifically Lol
Regarding an ancient necro'd thread.


I still do not think that if you fliped a coin infinite times you can eventually end up with 1,000,000,000 heads in a row Big smile And my reason for this is not a "tangent" either. It is a simple observation with regards to the tenancy of objects in flux. A flipping coin is an oscillation and oscillations tends to oscillate. You know... like a body in motion tends to stay in motion? An oscillation will tend to stay in oscillation (maybe I should call this eternum's law of randomness & oscillationLol ) And thus no "force" needs to be there in order to prevent a coin from turning heads again come the 10,000 th time (as you once suggested that I thought) because it is the very nature of the thing in question to exist in a state of flux. That flux provides a reasonable upwards limit to how many heads you can roll in a real and physical universe.

I just have to prove it mathematically Cool

So you see... what you may see as going off on a tangent is in fact two ideas that i see as having an intuitive relationship, where as you clearly do not. That does not mean that there is not one (just because you do not see it). I will however always happily explain when asked to. You may not think that standing waveforms and particles have a relationship, but i do and I think that it can explain a great deal of the subatomic world.



@Reaver Glitterstim

Thank you for your open mind. I wish there were forums of people like you, I'd happily post there in place of my various alias on various forums. I also totally agree with you, I love it when people actually go through the effort and truly prove me wrong. I want to see the kinks in my theories. That will only make them better. o7 Salute.






At any rate this was fun Big smile

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