EVE General Discussion

Its challenging, but not really that rewarding by the sounds of things. The closest I've done is ninja running anomalies in wormholes from highsec. And that was way way more convenient.
1) Most wormholes were deserted.
2) There's no real travel time to and from the PvE objective. One quick warp and I'm back in relatively safe highsec. This is important because it reduces the minimum play session required to get anything done and therefore let's me get some more ISK done. And if I have to leave due to hostiles, I can go right back to bearing it up in highsec.
3) Wormhole PvE is noticeably *different* to highsec PvE, which made up for the extra hassle involved in finding the wormhole sites. Is nullsec ratting or anomaly running really that different from running level 4s? That's even if you could safely bring a ship to nullsec capable of doing that stuff.

So my question is, is there anything in nullsec that's sufficiently different from highsec that'd make me want to
-put up with the tedium of repeatedly dodging gatecamps
-lose access to the highsec markets
-forego using expensive ships, fittings and implants.

Yeah true, it would be nice to do those plexes and the lowsec ones sometime. It'd be quite a big commitment to get a ship strong enough to do a 10/10 into that location. Ah well, I'll wait till the "Nullsec revamp" expansion that CCP were talking about a few months ago.

Soloing ratting BS in a stealth bomber is also rather amusing.

You have to be a bit more picky about the loot you grab though.

Ok quick crash course for you as it is.

Bubbles do pull ships out of warp. A typical place to have one setup is just off 2 well traveled gates (highsec to 0.0 being very popular).

When traversing 0.0 without a scout, do it in something small with a cloak - IE covert ops or force recon.

When jumping into a system use your ship scanner set to max distance and before decloaking see whats around - if there is a visible gatecamp with you right there the proper procedure is to double click space, on a horizontal plane form the enemy as they will try to burn and decloak you -decloaks happen at 2500m or less - hit your cloak and then MWD !!ALWAYS CLOAK BEFORE MWD!!. The theory in this is to propell yourself away from the imediate area you enter so you cannot be decloaked.

So now your in that desired 0.0 system warp to a random unobvious celestial at anything between 50-100km. Whilst in warp open up your people and places and midwarp create a bookmark and name this "safe Spot blah blah whatever" Now you have a Safe place to chill out. I say safe its safe as long as you always enter and stay cloaked in this spot. There are ship scanning probes and people out there willing to scan down your safe spots. A good way to avoid this is have a few setup and bounce between them making new bookmarks mid warp and then using them. Alternativly you can always spam your scanner for active probes in your area - soon as you see probes its time to start moving. A good prober can find a larger ship in under 30s.

So i mentioned the scanner there, now i havent played in a while but i seem to rememebr the max directional scan as being 15AU give or take. A good habbit to get into is having the solar system map at the ready to be used in conjunction with your scanner to see whats happening. Say you want to get to PNQY but suspect the gate there is camped and bubbled, but there is a plannet or other celetstial withing 15au of the gate you want to get to, warp there then use your directional scanner on 5 degree's to check that gate. The degrees of the ship scanner is calculated from the middle of your screen. But hey play around with it in safe space till you get a feel. Try to only ever warp to a gate once you have scanned it or are comfortable no hostiles are in system.

Local chat is also a great help... system empty your safe... system full suspect the locals to be out with pitchforks.


Ok last little bit of dribble before i call it a night. There is one other thing to take into concideration when entering a camped gate. Are there many fast small ships to decloak you, is there a webber to hold you there once they have. In rare occasions, its worth weighing up the options before making any move, the default uncloak timer is 30s so thats plenty of time to umm and arr.. But yeah weight up the options and if you can or thing you can, turn your ass around and MWD back to the gate and jump.

Another little sidenote for new 0.0 people, agro tiemrs... once you are engaged in any way, be this directly or indirectly like hitting a bubble, you get a 15agro timer. This basicaly means if you safe spot up then log off your ship will sit in space for 15minutes to give peopel a chance to probe you and kill you. Agro timers kill many cap pilots. Now a good trick to remove this agro timer is to jump system, once you change system its gone and your free to log.


To be honest its a steep learning curve and can cost you alot, but ocne you learn it all its second nature, and im sure you will find your own way to do things, but just a tired drunk guy trying to help some people out.

Fly safe EvE


P.S CCP FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIX THE GAME FASTER

you know whats tedious? having to have individual tackles for every single target in that 1000 man fleet over there, not having to click one extra time per system while travelling.
bubbles do their job, and they do it well. they make large scale PvP possible.

I bet you're the kind of guy who considers looking at local before undocking tedious, and would blame something other than themselves when they got popped.

Not so much, no.

Bubbles in Null Sec serve a very important purpose, they restrict free travel without proper preparation and become points of conflict.

If you were a sov owner in null sec you would not want just anybody freely traipsing through your turf in any ship they liked, harvesting "your" resources and giving away intel on your movements to people that don't like you. Nor would you like enemy fleets to be able to move freely through your space without some means to attempt to contain them.

Bubbles add an element of strategy to null sec conflicts that is largely missing from high and low sec combat. They are a tool that can easily become a double edged sword. Many a bubble camp has been turned on the campers and proved to be their undoing.

I'm afraid your just going to have to live with the fact that if you want to trespass on someones property they are going to take steps to make that process challenging for you.

No, they're devices that interrupt a ship from warping until it moves out of them, unless you're in a T3 with a nullification subsystem.

If you don't like dealing with bubbles, then you can always mine, rat, mission or do PI in lowesc if you think you'll be better off that way.

This just about sums it up.