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Final words on the Somer Blink Issue?

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Dave Stark
#41 - 2014-01-05 08:44:53 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
But there really is no difference between that isk and the isk goons have from the tech moon monopoly either.

Looking forward to reading whatever revisionist history is required for that statement to make sense.

The one where the goons took advantage of the rules CCP had set, (I.e. the in game conditions which clustered tech & made tech a required bottleneck item for all T2 production) & made a bucket of isk with it. Smart use of something that was allowed. Exactly what Somer did to make their isk also.

They didn't break any rules. They just abused them as close to breaking as they could. Totally Jerks, doesn't make them worthy of a ban or witch hunt. Just persuade everyone they are jerks and to stop using their product and they will collapse and new people who aren't utter jerks might take their place, or a new bunch of jerks might move in.

i feel you haven't got a clue what we're discussing here.

.... does it matter?

The Faction Warfare thing would also have been another great example.


maybe it's too early in the morning for me, but the whole issue with somer was that they were gifted valuable assets from thin air by ccp.

how does the tech monopoly or FW even remotely relate to that issue?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#42 - 2014-01-05 08:46:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
It doesn't, I'm just being a jerk on general discussion!

Actually, it's something about where ccp was told about A Thing and didn't do much, so A Thing was exploited and they were reminded about A Thing and got around to fixing it so it was no longer A Thing. Do you want more details?

Tech bottleneck, FW LP exchange ....


both unrelated to Somer, I was working off the need to list things goons Had Done.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Dave Stark
#43 - 2014-01-05 08:49:16 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
It doesn't, I'm just being a jerk on general discussion!

Actually, it's something about where ccp was told about A Thing and didn't do much, so A Thing was exploited and they were reminded about A Thing and got around to fixing it so it was no longer A Thing. Do you want more details?

Tech bottleneck, FW LP exchange ....


freighters full of zydrine, something something.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#44 - 2014-01-05 08:50:41 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
It doesn't, I'm just being a jerk on general discussion!

Actually, it's something about where ccp was told about A Thing and didn't do much, so A Thing was exploited and they were reminded about A Thing and got around to fixing it so it was no longer A Thing. Do you want more details?

Tech bottleneck, FW LP exchange ....


freighters full of zydrine, something something.

it wasn't zydrine specifically, actually. much more elegant than that.

CCP was informed in advance of the possibility but decided that it was Fine. Then it was used to the tune of like 5 trillion isk and it was Not Fine and Not Intended.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Dave Stark
#45 - 2014-01-05 08:54:43 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
it wasn't zydrine specifically, actually. much more elegant than that.

CCP was informed in advance of the possibility but decided that it was Fine. Then it was used to the tune of like 5 trillion isk and it was Not Fine and Not Intended.


it's always fine until it's not. like GTC incentives!
Plug in Baby
Family Tipes
#46 - 2014-01-05 09:08:31 UTC
This thread should be locked and users directed to post in the Eve Vegas Somer thread.

This is not a forum alt, this is a forum main.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#47 - 2014-01-05 09:09:53 UTC
Plug in Baby wrote:
This thread should be locked and users directed to post in the Eve Vegas Somer thread.

Wait, there's one?

Welp, I guess this was a duplicate. Link to the Eve Vegas somer thread please?

CCP gave them a trip or something to lottery off, right? Pretty nice stuff.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Dave Stark
#48 - 2014-01-05 09:19:49 UTC
Plug in Baby wrote:
This thread should be locked and users directed to post in the Eve Vegas Somer thread.


or even to CCP's own thread that was stickied, then unsticked with no comment and promptly abandoned like the titanic when it hit an ice cube.
Logical 101
PowerCow Farm
#49 - 2014-01-05 09:25:46 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
the whole issue with somer was that they were gifted valuable assets from thin air by ccp

The nerve! The gall! The terrible, biting, wretched unfairness of it all!

I mean... free valuable pixels?

Like... free valuable pixels?

My god.

My world is crumbling.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#50 - 2014-01-05 09:32:46 UTC
Plug in Baby wrote:
This thread should be locked and users directed to post in the Eve Vegas Somer thread.

I think these are appropriate Final words on the Somer Blink Issue

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#51 - 2014-01-05 09:42:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Damsel in Distress wrote:
So my account is about to expire and I wondered if there has been any wrap up concering the Somer Blink misconduct.

Tried Forum and Google search but couldn't find a trace of an apology or even an attempt to revert CCPs wrongdoings.

Considering it has been a more severe dev misconduct than T20, I must have missed it somehow.

Apologies if the respective search engines didn't come up with the correct topic, but I'm sure someone can point me to it :).


Yes, there's been a wrap up of sorts... CCP Navigator is leaving CCP for Riot Games.

Looks like CCP is becoming a place to look for former Electronic Arts employees and Riot Games the place to meet former CCP developers...Lol

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#52 - 2014-01-05 10:01:25 UTC
Back in the day........... Things like this didn't happen.

What went wrong Shocked

Dont just [u]think[/u] outside the box, [u]Live[/u] outside of it...
Jove Death
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2014-01-05 10:39:24 UTC
They choked thats whats happening.


Give me a job at CCP. Would take me 5 mins to shut somer down Twisted

Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek.
Dave Stark
#54 - 2014-01-05 10:40:24 UTC
Jove Death wrote:
They choked thats whats happening.


Give me a job at CCP. Would take me 5 mins to shut somer down Twisted


yeah it was ccp who ****** up, not somer. somer don't need shutting down.
Jove Death
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2014-01-05 10:42:51 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Jove Death wrote:
They choked thats whats happening.


Give me a job at CCP. Would take me 5 mins to shut somer down Twisted


yeah it was ccp who ****** up, not somer. somer don't need shutting down.



TBH as I mentioned in other posts. CCP keep somer as its an exceptional way for people to buy plexes and waste them on somer. Lots of money for CCP and lots of isk for somer. Job Done

Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#56 - 2014-01-05 10:46:59 UTC
The final word is:

Some people think they understand it and are annoyed

Some people think they understand it and arent

And some people find the constant whining extremely tedious.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
#57 - 2014-01-05 10:53:06 UTC
Damsel in Distress wrote:
So my account is about to expire and I wondered if there has been any wrap up concering the Somer Blink misconduct.

Tried Forum and Google search but couldn't find a trace of an apology or even an attempt to revert CCPs wrongdoings.

Considering it has been a more severe dev misconduct than T20, I must have missed it somehow.

Apologies if the respective search engines didn't come up with the correct topic, but I'm sure someone can point me to it :).


How the **** has this been worse dev issue that T20. Blowing out of all proportion or what.

Get your head out of your arse and grow up.
Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
#58 - 2014-01-05 10:56:31 UTC
Kawaiian Breeze wrote:
T20 was pretty bad because of the direct involvement but that was almost exclusively ingame benefits. The thing about Somer and the sweetheart deals that HE got and is still getting generate massive real life money profits.


The deals he got wasn't with CCP but with the time code providers, CCP closed the loophole therefore no problem now.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#59 - 2014-01-05 10:57:59 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
The final word is:

Some people think they understand it and are annoyed

Some people think they understand it and arent

And some people find the constant whining extremely tedious.

I'm going from 2 to 3.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2014-01-05 11:00:14 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
The final word is:

Some people think they understand it and are annoyed

Some people think they understand it and arent

And some people find the constant whining extremely tedious.


What if I do understand it and am annoyed but I also find it tedious and wish CCP would just answer already?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)