EVE General Discussion

It seems that by the day the EVE community becomes more and more divided. In every thread, players are splitting off into camps: you are either Highsec or Nullsec, Carebear or PVP, WiS or FIS, etc, etc...

Only a few months ago a shaky unity was formed around the collective frustration at the state of the game. We posted, and crashed trade hubs, and generally raged until we got CCP's attention...

...then CCP did the worst thing they could do; they relented.

They recognized that some pretty big wheels were squeaking and needed some oil, so they got their supplies together and went to work trying to make sure everything would function smoothly again. And for a little while, it seemed like things were back on track.

Then the little wheels saw what happened, and decided they wanted their day. Now every small cause and pet issue has a vocal minority raging on the forums and in game about the importance of their particular gripe. Heaven forbid if CCP decides to focus their efforts on something other than their topic of choice - as a whole we seem to have taken to heart the view that anything done for another area/play style/point of view than the one we champion will negatively impact our cause.

You're either with me, or against me.

The careful ballet of implementing change to a system as large and complex as EVE Online cannot be viewed as a zero sum game. Everything that does not directly benefit you and your game experience does not have to be viewed as a loss.

We have demonstrated the power of a united playerbase, and CCP has shown that they can recognize their mistakes and are willing to listen to the players in order to produce the best experience they can. However, we as players need to recognize that we cannot see all the cards, do not know every detail, and cannot always see what is best for the game. Since the events of this summer, it seems whenever an issue arises the same calls for player-vs-ccp rebellion, canceled subscriptions, and prophecies that the game will end sound again.

This cannot continue; doing so dilutes the power which we, as players, can potentially wield. Like the boy who cried wolf, if we continue to throw tantrums, rage, and make demands about every little change and gripe when a real issue comes along we will not be heard.

So lets all take a step back, allow CCP to continue on their new path of giving us fixes and new content and save our ire for when its really needed.

i couldnt of put it better myself .

+1

Actually, you could have.

/pet peeve

I am indifferent to you. Just too tired to care any more.

That's funny.

Crashed Trade Hub? Wanna come up with something more realistic for everyone to chew down?

People always seem to have different opinions on everything. Why would it be different with EVE?

Pick your battles. Sage advice.

CCP has rediscovered the old adage: "The customer is always right." Any company that is involved in providing a service that forgets this simple rule, will ultimately fail. The CEO in his letter realized and admitted to that temporary gaff. It would be equally foolish to not have a feedback loop to the company in an attempt to evaluate your product. That feedback loop is represented in the forum mechanic as we all know so well. To ask people to not voice their opinions and camp themselves is like asking: "please stop being human." It is what it is.

CCP will look at all our bitching, camps, politicking, "your with me or against me" etc etc and try to find compromises and solutions that satisfy the largest population base that they can. Their success to navigate this difficult task of making the majority happy will be represented by the bottom line. If they get it right... more players... get it wrong... less players and bankruptcy.

They know that can't make everyone happy all the time. But that's not the goal and they have to have the guts to make the hard calls. Just use prior communication when doing it to ease the blow to the "other camp."

But that doesn't mean people should stop voicing their opinions as vociferously as they want. Indeed a smart CCP would be one that would answer threads more often, even one liners or short responses; even if they said things like "nice idea, but not possible at this time." or something to that effect. When they make each player feel like their contributions and ideas are important it creates a sense of ownership by the player base. The fact that people are as vociferous as they are in their passion for this game is evidence of a loyal and dedicated customer.

Don't ask for less bitching.... just embrace the chaos and friction and make it work for you CCP.

NOW FIX GALLENTE and MY HYBRIDS!

Heated debate is usualy a very good sign that things are not down the drain.
It's when things looks the most grim and fear grab a hold of people that everyone - no matter their background - rallies behind a common goal.


And most changes DOES affect everyone. Wether you notice it or not – increasing another players nominal income – ceteris paribus – is a nerf to your income.