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Question about ISBOXER!! - Shock Shock HORROR SHOCK

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Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-01-02 21:36:38 UTC
I'm no expert but here is my take:

1) CCP really hates it when you make new accounts specifically to do a repetitive act. For instance, making a fresh account specifically to kill newbies over and over IS bannable.

2) While spamming applications is not as severe, it strikes me that they wouldn't like the concept of an account being created just to spam text.

3) So as long as it's continuously doable without making new accounts over and over, and not botted, I can't see a problem with it.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#22 - 2014-01-02 21:46:06 UTC
Pinky Hops wrote:
I'm no expert but here is my take:

1) CCP really hates it when you make new accounts specifically to do a repetitive act. For instance, making a fresh account specifically to kill newbies over and over IS bannable.


Incorrect. Biomassing characters with low security status in order to evade the consequences of suicide ganking is bannabale, creating new alts that then lie fallow with low security status is not bannable.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#23 - 2014-01-02 21:47:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Mara Rinn wrote:
Pinky Hops wrote:
I'm no expert but here is my take:

1) CCP really hates it when you make new accounts specifically to do a repetitive act. For instance, making a fresh account specifically to kill newbies over and over IS bannable.

Incorrect. Biomassing characters with low security status in order to evade the consequences of suicide ganking is bannabale, creating new alts that then lie fallow with low security status is not bannable.

Regular gankers don't do either of those anyway, they either grind the sec status or just gank at -10.0

also, killing newbies over and over isn't allowed, pretty sure

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#24 - 2014-01-02 21:47:34 UTC
Prie Mary wrote:
Its a legitimate question really. If this program is allowed. Then people can do some pretty game breaking things with it


ISBoxer is not allowed but neither is it disallowed. It's what you do with it that matters.
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#25 - 2014-01-02 21:48:08 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Incorrect. Biomassing characters with low security status in order to evade the consequences of suicide ganking is bannabale, creating new alts that then lie fallow with low security status is not bannable.



Its replies like this which give me hope. THE SPAMMATRON 3000 is appeased

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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#26 - 2014-01-02 21:52:26 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Pinky Hops wrote:
I'm no expert but here is my take:

1) CCP really hates it when you make new accounts specifically to do a repetitive act. For instance, making a fresh account specifically to kill newbies over and over IS bannable.


Incorrect. Biomassing characters with low security status in order to evade the consequences of suicide ganking is bannabale, creating new alts that then lie fallow with low security status is not bannable.


While technically true, GMs are gonna look and see that you're being a ****, and they're not going to like it, and this will influence what they decide to do. OP shouldn't be surprised to catch a warning. Since OP specifically wants to dance around the limits of what is OK or not OK, then OP should realize he's playing with fire if he actually does this.

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Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#27 - 2014-01-02 21:53:22 UTC
Prie Mary wrote:


Its replies like this which give me hope. THE SPAMMATRON 3000 is appeased


People have been banned for significant periods of time for accidentally pressing *start conversation* with their 20 isboxer characters. I would be absolutely astounded if CCP gave the ok for this.
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-01-02 21:54:27 UTC
OP hasn't done anything as of yet. But there be a plan at foot I tell ye!

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#29 - 2014-01-02 21:56:15 UTC
Batelle wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
Pinky Hops wrote:
1) CCP really hates it when you make new accounts specifically to do a repetitive act. For instance, making a fresh account specifically to kill newbies over and over IS bannable.

Incorrect. Biomassing characters with low security status in order to evade the consequences of suicide ganking is bannabale, creating new alts that then lie fallow with low security status is not bannable.

While technically true, GMs are gonna look and see that you're being a ****, and they're not going to like it, and this will influence what they decide to do. OP shouldn't be surprised to catch a warning. Since OP specifically wants to dance around the limits of what is OK or not OK, then OP should realize he's playing with fire if he actually does this.

making our auth guys cry

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Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#30 - 2014-01-02 21:59:13 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
making our auth guys cry



Spoke to one of your auth guys earlier, very nice guy. Wouldn't take my drake Shocked

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Kallen Kozukie
Channel Six News
#31 - 2014-01-02 22:06:46 UTC
But i want to bring my drake !
Serenity Miner
Faster than Light Inc
#32 - 2014-01-03 02:22:08 UTC
What? this I think is going to end very badly, like a lead balloonUgh

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-01-03 03:23:43 UTC
Guy is upset because we won't let him join.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#34 - 2014-01-03 03:27:03 UTC
A lot of people are.

And I thought they might be different. sigh

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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2014-01-03 04:47:07 UTC
I would think you will get a warning for this. It will cause a lot of lag on the recipient accouns, intentional lag at that and interfere with a normal function of the game (processing of applications).

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TheMercenaryKing
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#36 - 2014-01-03 05:09:49 UTC
It is unlikely a breach of the ToS for the following reasons:

-you are still manually controlling the characters, but broadcasting the way you moved your mouse and keystrokes to all clients.
-a person without ISBoxer or like programs can do this if they have the same number of accounts
-application spamming, as far as i have known, has never gotten someone banned.


The reason ISBoxer is allowed is because it is not automating the process for me, i still do the manual commands (warp, target, assign, F1). Because I am still hitting F1 it is allowed. if the program hit F1 for me, aka automation or botting, via a macro or something then i could be banned.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#37 - 2014-01-03 05:23:20 UTC
I mean it's not like OP can't go & join Eternity Inc or something. They won't even try to scam you.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2014-01-03 05:29:00 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
I mean it's not like OP can't go & join Eternity Inc or something. They won't even try to scam you.

You mean there are OTHER corps in Goonswarm?!

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#39 - 2014-01-03 05:41:15 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
I mean it's not like OP can't go & join Eternity Inc or something. They won't even try to scam you.

You mean there are OTHER corps in Goonswarm?!

Am0k. and Wildy Inappropriate.

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Rainbow Dash
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2014-01-03 05:54:11 UTC
I'm sure CCP will be very happy with all the money you'll be paying them for these 3000 accounts.