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Fuel Pellets: Price spike is go!
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Lauren Hellfury
Super Happy Awesome Fun Times
#1 - 2011-11-07 15:35:27 UTC
Fuel costs for towers is going up with the winter expansion.

Increases vary from no change on Robotics through to 4x on liquid ozone/heavy water/coolant.

Racial topes are approximately 3.5x


Get to it minions.

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enterprisePSI
#2 - 2011-11-07 15:39:31 UTC
Fuel prices up.
Ice mining up.
Suicide gank up.

$_ $ good days ^_^

The tears of the many, outweigh the tears of the few. Or the one. enterprise-psi©
Gatan Hahran
Brukterer
#3 - 2011-11-07 15:42:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Gatan Hahran
panic buy NOW!
then calm down, relax... and..

panic buy MUCH MORE!
Lauren Hellfury
Super Happy Awesome Fun Times
#4 - 2011-11-07 15:57:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Lauren Hellfury
Relevant part of the dev blog pasted below:

8x Coolant
4x Enriched Uranium
400x relevant racial Isotope
4x Mechanical Parts
20x Oxygen
1x Robotics
150x Heavy Water
150x Liquid Ozone

Towers will use 1 block/hour for small, 2 blocks/hour for medium and 4 blocks/hour for large. The CPU and Power load will no longer have any impact on your fuel needs - all towers now need the same amount of fuel, regardless of configuration.

Compare the above with the current usage amounts.

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Katareena Starfire
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-11-07 16:45:54 UTC
Maybe I am using that southern U.S. math again, but it looks to me like fuel costs are lower (except maybe HW and LO depending on your setup). Larges now take 5 less oxygen, 1 less mech part, and 50 less isotopes per hour. I give this a thumbs up!

Also, smalls and mediums use 1/4 and 1/2 a robotic per hour, respectively, which will significantly reduce the fuel costs on running them.

Kat
Serial Chi
White Knights of Equestria
#6 - 2011-11-07 16:53:26 UTC
faction tower prices go down. no longer has the "Save you money over time" appeal to them anymore. with the extra storage, would be more useful in WH space though.
Bel Arvardan
Read The Forums
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2011-11-07 16:54:34 UTC
Hahahah bought all heavy water in Jita, relisted it at 39 ISK and sold it instantly !
Max Flipper
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2011-11-07 16:57:39 UTC
Lauren Hellfury wrote:
Fuel costs for towers is going up with the winter expansion.

Increases vary from no change on Robotics through to 4x on liquid ozone/heavy water/coolant.

Racial topes are approximately 3.5x


Get to it minions.


You are aware that the Materials listed are required to build four Pallets?

The really noteworthy increases will be in LO/Heavy Water since they based the cost on a fully utilized Tower.
Claire Voyant
#9 - 2011-11-07 17:58:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Claire Voyant
OP's math sucks and who in hell doesn't use all their grid and CPU? What has happened to MD? I swear when they moved the forum they took all your brains and gave them to zombies.

Edit: Excuse me, I need to go sell to some idiots.
Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-11-07 18:21:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Cyniac
Claire Voyant wrote:
OP's math sucks and who in hell doesn't use all their grid and CPU? What has happened to MD? I swear when they moved the forum they took all your brains and gave them to zombies.



LolLolLolLol

This has popped up everywhere it's hilarious...

The eagerness to manipulate markets gets the better of some of us sometimes Cool



EDIT: Lauren, you should go back to the dark haired look you know... would stop you from having blonde moments like this one!
Lauren Hellfury
Super Happy Awesome Fun Times
#11 - 2011-11-07 18:25:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Lauren Hellfury
What? You can still read it? Sad But I used tippex and everything!

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Claire Voyant
#12 - 2011-11-07 18:40:49 UTC
Lauren Hellfury wrote:
What? You can still read it? Sad But I used tippex and everything!

LOL, Whiteout on the screen for all us Americans.
Brock Nelson
#13 - 2011-11-07 18:43:57 UTC
Katareena Starfire wrote:
Maybe I am using that southern U.S. math again, but it looks to me like fuel costs are lower (except maybe HW and LO depending on your setup). Larges now take 5 less oxygen, 1 less mech part, and 50 less isotopes per hour. I give this a thumbs up!

Also, smalls and mediums use 1/4 and 1/2 a robotic per hour, respectively, which will significantly reduce the fuel costs on running them.

Kat


Not everyone uses up all of their CPU and Powergrid

Also, someone in SCC Lounge suggested that there's no point in trying to conserve your CPU/Power, might as well max it out once the new system kicks in

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Claire Voyant
#14 - 2011-11-07 19:10:08 UTC
Brock Nelson wrote:
Not everyone uses up all of their CPU and Powergrid

Also, someone in SCC Lounge suggested that there's no point in trying to conserve your CPU/Power, might as well max it out once the new system kicks in

But on Signatures we pointed out that you would be stupid not to max out your CPU for EWAR under the old system given the cheapness of heavy water, if only to deter random wardecs.

Why can't we all just get along? Why do we have to have two different chats?
Brock Nelson
#15 - 2011-11-07 19:14:21 UTC
Claire Voyant wrote:
Brock Nelson wrote:
Not everyone uses up all of their CPU and Powergrid

Also, someone in SCC Lounge suggested that there's no point in trying to conserve your CPU/Power, might as well max it out once the new system kicks in

But on Signatures we pointed out that you would be stupid not to max out your CPU for EWAR under the old system given the cheapness of heavy water, if only to deter random wardecs.

Why can't we all just get along? Why do we have to have two different chats?


Because as Qube have pointed out many times, it's hard enough for Canadians to keep up with 2 things (chat) at a time

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flakeys
Doomheim
#16 - 2011-11-07 19:20:07 UTC
Claire Voyant wrote:
Why can't we all just get along? Why do we have to have two different chats?



Not like 99.99% of signature hangs in scc.


If kithran opened scc it would be a full 100% :)

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Rek Esket
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2011-11-07 19:50:51 UTC
The requirements to operate most towers goes DOWN by quite a bit.

POS Fuel Changes (OLD -> NEW) [NO SOV]
Coolant: 8 -> 8
Mech Parts: 5 -> 4
Oxygen: 25 -> 20
Robotics: 1 -> 1
Enr. Uranium: 4 -> 4
Isotopes: 450 -> 400

POS Fuel Changes (OLD -> NEW) [SOV]
Coolant: 6 -> 6
Mech Parts: 4 -> 3
Oxygen: 19 -> 15
Robotics: 1 -> 0.75
Enr. Uranium: 3 -> 3
Isotopes: 338 -> 300

Basically people are dumb and can't read.
Brock Nelson
#18 - 2011-11-07 19:56:05 UTC
How about Ozone and Water?

Basically goons are dumb and can't read.

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Rek Esket
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2011-11-07 20:01:51 UTC
Brock Nelson wrote:
How about Ozone and Water?


The poster of this thread wasn't talking about liquid ozone or heavy water, but to speculate it wouldn't be bad to invest in either at this point.
Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
#20 - 2011-11-07 20:04:13 UTC
Claire Voyant wrote:
OP's math sucks and who in hell doesn't use all their grid and CPU? What has happened to MD? I swear when they moved the forum they took all your brains and gave them to zombies.

Edit: Excuse me, I need to go sell to some idiots.


You mean there's a market manipulator using impure math in my MD? And the way that math just happens to suck generates profit for them? OH THE HUMANITY!!

As an aside, I think the new fuel block system is probably the single biggest change in the expansion. It effectively increases the cost of running a faction POS by a considerable amount. I foresee these dropping a lot in price as a result. Also, I see yet more increase in the cost of R&D stuff (copying, BPO research, invention), because that's more often done in high sec and faction towers are more prevalent.
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