EVE General Discussion

So isboxer does not automate anything — it only replicates. It therefore doesn't fall afoul of the parts of the EULA that prohibit automation.

They are performing the actions the user feeds into them. Since they're not automated, if the user does not feed any input into them, nothing happens.

Commands to the client that makes it do stuff.

What's wrong about it? The point of automation is that it creates output without requiring exact user input every step of the way — the output is created on its own, autonomously, automatically. That autonomy — user inputs A, the client reacts to A, and to the automatically generated B, C, D and E as well — is what's not allowed.

Replication just creates a 1:1 mapping between input and output across a line of parallel recipients. Since it's 1:1 — user does A, client reacts to A — it's allowed.

…and there is. That's the whole point of messaging APIs. In this case, we want to replicate input, so we broadcast the messages intercepted using the input API.

Oh, and automation has pretty much everything to do with generation of actions.

Having used a similar program in the past for another game and knowing someone who used Iso extensively when they had the multibox fever nothing is automated. Buttons are pressed and commands are passed to the linked accounts, no press = no action.
Least Eve has no sharp corners to get hung up on and break /follow.

yet again, automation is not neccessarily generation of something. I linked you wikipedia go and read it.
X bots running behind and imitating you are no less bots.


EULA prohibit everything of 3rd party software which interacts with Eve, EULA dont explicitely exclude input broadcast from that rule.


they are generating input where no user input has been done.
they are imitating your controlled client in automated manner.


User does not feed any input into isboxed clients yet things happen, isboxer feeds input to these clients, copied from the one specific main client human controls.


no, wrong. Doing nothing is output as well. Ask these ratters who whine about afk cloakers, those are sitting afk in system, yet frighten people by their sole presence.

Grey area that CCP and most players don't see it that way, it's a really minor issue that is not worth wasting resource to police. Play your game, if you see isboxer as such a great advantage, use it, sign up 50+ accounts and have fun skilling then all up.

no.
for same reason I never did bot ratting.

Solution is rather easy... goto a system that doesn't have so many miners if mining is your thing. There has been a glacial ice thing in my system for a week and a few roid belts that are untouched. Feel free to locate me and come visit.

what kind of ******** piece of response is this cr*p?
Exactly, its for the purpose of topic being discussed here and I clearly explained why input broadcast is automation.
I've given you sources for my claims you refuse to understand or are simply too stupid for it.
Go back and read what automation means. Its not just AI doing something on its own.


not really true. Read below a relevant extract from EULA


CONDUCT
A. Specifically Restricted Conduct

Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct. Without limiting CCP's rights to control the Game environment, and the conduct of the players within that environment, CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game.

You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.
You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played.
You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.




no, you dont need any software for multiboxing. Start up x clients and go.
What you need software for is automated multiboxing like isbox.


no, he does not. Isbox does feed input into clients, not user.
Here again, go back and read my sources I linked for you. Automation is not just AI. Its everything which allows you to perform tasks with reduced workload compared to regular use. It as well falls under the "accelerated rate" clause from quoted EULA parts since isboxer saves you time and effiort clicking same inputs into 50 different clients in a very efficient manner, its the purpose why you use it and which is clearly a sort of automation, obvious for everyone with a sliver of common sense.


this doesnt even make sense at all, what??

Is this a moral decision of some kind? Because botting is not allowed, Isboxer is allowed.

wrong.

Saw a nice piece of text. ISBoxer creates input.

Wrong.

Duplicating information which is already provided in a system does not equal inputting information into the system.