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Drone Assist: Kill It With Fire

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#1 - 2013-12-31 18:50:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
TL;DR - Kill Drone Assist.

Aside from the fact that drones now completely out-class every other weapon system with superior tracking, range, damage application and alpha - there's the very real issue of node load, instability and crashes. Drone ships are fine - they're specialized. But drone use shouldn't extend beyond the controlling ship. Drone Assist? That's when your buddy runs out of drones and you abandon some of yours to help replenish his supply…

Cry Drone Tear Count: 3

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2013-12-31 19:07:07 UTC
The 99% of EVE that doesn't Blob each other once a month doesn't care about your drone assist issue, as a matter of fact we like and need drone assist.

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#3 - 2013-12-31 19:21:57 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
The 1% of EVE that doesn't Blob each other once a month doesn't care about your drone assist issue, as a matter of fact we like and need drone assist.

Fixed it for you.

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2013-12-31 19:31:51 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
The 99% of EVE that doesn't Blob each other once a month doesn't care about your drone assist issue, as a matter of fact we like and need drone assist.



Go Away.


@OP, Supported. Drone Assist is hilariously broken.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-12-31 19:34:00 UTC
I would love to see drone assist go away.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Sand Shardani
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-12-31 20:19:09 UTC
Is Drone assist the problem, or the fact that carriers are using sentries?

I see two solutions...

1) Carriers can't use anything but fighters

2) Carriers can only launch 5 combat drones, but still launch 10 fighters.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2013-12-31 20:22:39 UTC
Drone assist with Ishtar, Dominix or Prophecy fleets is still incredibly powerful, so it's not just carriers at all.

And since fighters are rubbish, your ideas kind of wreck them. And remove carrier ratting too.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-12-31 21:14:06 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Drone assist with Ishtar, Dominix or Prophecy fleets is still incredibly powerful, so it's not just carriers at all.

And since fighters are rubbish, your ideas kind of wreck them. And remove carrier ratting too.

They can fix fighters by having drone mods, rigs and skills effect them also, except for drone interfacing. Then if carriers were only able to use fighters it would not be so bad.

But like you and others have stated drone assist is the problem and not drone boats or slow cat fleets.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Shantetha
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-12-31 22:31:58 UTC
limit drone assist ordering to a leadership skill , and toss in a new skill to learn..


example.

Squad Drone Control (x12 skill mod)
req Leadership V, Drone control V, Drone Interfacing V
Allows you to control 1 Squad members drones through assist, max of 5 Squad members worth of drones.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#10 - 2013-12-31 22:39:27 UTC
Nope, Drone Assist needs to die. Any attempt to limit it is just going to be exploited.

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Gell Deraison
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-12-31 23:01:54 UTC
Yeah, better completely remove one of the mechanics that makes drones interesting, just because in certain fleets using a certain drone on a large scale it performs very well. Seems entirely reasonable.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#12 - 2013-12-31 23:06:14 UTC
Gell Deraison wrote:
Yeah, better completely remove one of the mechanics that makes drones interesting, just because in certain fleets using a certain drone on a large scale it performs very well. Seems entirely reasonable.

Come back when you've taken the time to educate yourself.

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Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-12-31 23:30:31 UTC
Gell Deraison wrote:
Yeah, better completely remove one of the mechanics that makes drones interesting, just because in certain fleets using a certain drone on a large scale it performs very well. Seems entirely reasonable.

Makes drones interesting for whom? Certainly not the drone ship pilot, or are you talking game of alts? In which case still no.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Motorbit
Moira.
#14 - 2013-12-31 23:32:24 UTC
carebears use it to focuss their drone swarms in incursions.
it lets them do them about 3% faster, so its NECESSARY to keep the eve economy running.
I am disposable
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-12-31 23:40:48 UTC
+1

Drone assist is an absurdly broken feature.
Gell Deraison
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-12-31 23:54:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Gell Deraison
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Gell Deraison wrote:
Yeah, better completely remove one of the mechanics that makes drones interesting, just because in certain fleets using a certain drone on a large scale it performs very well. Seems entirely reasonable.

Makes drones interesting for whom? Certainly not the drone ship pilot, or are you talking game of alts? In which case still no.
Assisting lights to tackle for decloaks is interesting ...Any assist that isn't just assist all the sentries to a drone bunny. Having a bit of a different flavour from the other weapons systems makes them interesting.
And I completely disagree that assisting drones is any more of a boring mechanic than just press F1 for missiles, which seems to be what everyone in this thread wants them to be.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#17 - 2013-12-31 23:59:11 UTC
Gell Deraison wrote:
And I completely disagree that assisting drones is any more of a boring mechanic than just press F1 for missiles, which seems to be what everyone in this thread wants them to be.

If you have to resort to dragging missiles into your opposing argument, you've already lost.

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#18 - 2014-01-01 00:02:57 UTC
Here's the best argument put forward yet.

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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#19 - 2014-01-01 00:40:50 UTC
I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.

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HiddenPorpoise
Jarlhettur's Drop
United Federation of Conifers
#20 - 2014-01-01 01:50:40 UTC
If it really does that much, turn it off for sentries. I've never heard of mobile drone assist being an issue and they stagger shots as they get in range unlike the sentries. I won't like it but I'd prefer it to having no assist.
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