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Ugly Douchebag
Ugliest Corporation
#21 - 2013-12-29 14:00:26 UTC
can i haz your stuffz?
Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#22 - 2013-12-29 14:02:25 UTC
James McMario wrote:
Now I just learned that a fully armored (2 shield extenders) Tayra

But it had actually 4 cargohold expanders and 3 cargo rigs, so it was in fact fully "anti-armored".
EvEa Deva
Doomheim
#23 - 2013-12-29 14:04:15 UTC
Chill OP half the people here who talk tough on the forums, cry like little bitches when they lose a ship too.
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-12-29 14:09:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Severide
Magna Mortem wrote:
That's an even dumber trolling attempt than the last one of that other guy. The mindless zombies will still fall for it though.

Also: lose. Not "loose". Stupid.


Exactly.... 99.999% of people on ANY Internet Forum ever cannot seem to spell lose correctly. It truely is mass stupidity...
Pewty McPew
EVE Corporation 2357451
#25 - 2013-12-29 15:08:45 UTC
James McMario wrote:
Sometimes it obviously takes some events to finally take decisions. I am playing EVE since 2008, just 1-2h per week as real life is still some kind of important :).

Now I just learned that a fully armored (2 shield extenders) Tayra with 600 MIO ISK freight (my ship and freight of course,) can be blown out of space in INARO (a 0.8 high sec system!!!!!) with just one shot from a 1400mm canon of some player playing EVE sind November this year.

How - for god's sake - can something like this happen in HIGH SEC space. I was even flying the route coming from Jita "in manual", meaning flying from gate to gate by clicking it myself. So NO autopilot. The moment my Tayra got visible because of warping to the next gate exploded, releasing my pod. The guy started shooting at my pod also but that moment I hit warp and was not destroyed.

But - again - how can this happen in HIGH SEC space? I think CCP could balance something like this. Anybody an idea?

Well - maybe off to Star Citizen in the near future, there I can at least blame loosing my ship on my bad flying skills :)


Jim


Where do I start?

1. Get a better hauler (Note: NO T1 Varients)
2. Don't use cargo expanders (It lowers your EHP by quite a bit)
3. Add resistance mods not just extenders
4. Avoid Jita
5. Use armor plates
6. Break up your cargo so it's not economicaly worth ganking you.
7. When a Tornado or Catalyst are on grid when your hauling dock or run ASAP
8. No autopiolit (YAY, you did that right at least)
9. Usa a scout if you can.
10. Avoid Jita

I could go on but the above is a good starting point for you.

Mag's
Azn Empire
#26 - 2013-12-29 15:16:47 UTC
Well that was funny, thanks for the laugh OP.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

James McMario
WISMUT AG
#27 - 2013-12-29 15:17:47 UTC
Thanks McPew. I might keep those advises in mind. Seems like I should have been more careful :)


To people like Magna, Haedonism, etc. - seems like by posting this I accidently dialed "0" as you guys showed up eventually. That community here is even worse then I thought... get a life, ok?

But on the other hand, thanks to those here that posted something useful. I'll be licking wounds and let's see :)

Thanks, Jim


@Admin: you can close this one :)
Annathalia Blood
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2013-12-29 15:28:14 UTC
Can I have your stuff? Please....
James McMario
WISMUT AG
#29 - 2013-12-29 15:29:22 UTC
Annathalia Blood wrote:
Can I have your stuff? Please....



Not yet. :) Some people here just grabbed my attention ;)
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2013-12-29 15:35:56 UTC
I'm gonna haul 600 mil in a 2 mil junk. What could possibly go wrong.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-12-29 15:41:12 UTC
Haha

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-12-29 15:42:01 UTC
The guy used a Tornado to gank you. What a flop.

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Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#33 - 2013-12-29 15:42:06 UTC
EvEa Deva wrote:
Chill OP half the people here who talk tough on the forums, cry like little bitches when they lose a ship too.


Nope.... last time I died, I typed "TELL MY STORYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!" in local as the last of my hull hp melted away. And that was the SECOND Enyo I lost, that day. :)

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#34 - 2013-12-29 15:42:37 UTC
James McMario wrote:
Sometimes it obviously takes some events to finally take decisions. I am playing EVE since 2008, just 1-2h per week as real life is still some kind of important :).

Now I just learned that a fully armored (2 shield extenders) Tayra with 600 MIO ISK freight (my ship and freight of course,) can be blown out of space in INARO (a 0.8 high sec system!!!!!) with just one shot from a 1400mm canon of some player playing EVE sind November this year.

How - for god's sake - can something like this happen in HIGH SEC space. I was even flying the route coming from Jita "in manual", meaning flying from gate to gate by clicking it myself. So NO autopilot. The moment my Tayra got visible because of warping to the next gate exploded, releasing my pod. The guy started shooting at my pod also but that moment I hit warp and was not destroyed.

But - again - how can this happen in HIGH SEC space? I think CCP could balance something like this. Anybody an idea?

Well - maybe off to Star Citizen in the near future, there I can at least blame loosing my ship on my bad flying skills :)


Jim


You should know high security space is safer, not 100% safe if you have been playing since 2008. If it was 100% safe like many assume it should be, then there would be no need for Concord.
Careby
#35 - 2013-12-29 15:43:04 UTC
James McMario wrote:
I think CCP could balance something like this. Anybody an idea?

You didn't tell the whole story. What happened AFTER your ship exploded? Did CONCORD come to the scene? Did they take any action toward the criminal who so dastardly attacked you? Did they destroy HIS ship? I bet they did. With no fair trial to determine whether or not the attack was justified, I bet they gave you the benefit of the doubt, destroyed his ship, and reduced his security status. It sounds to me like CCP has more than balanced "something like this." So what's the problem?

Oh, yes, the loss of your cargo. Well, CCP really has no way of knowing what people will carry in cargo, so it's difficult for them to balance that. They depend on players to make sensible choices about what value they carry in what type ship. They try to help some by making only about half the cargo drop as recoverable loot. That way, if you go a little bit overboard in packing, you won't be too attractive to criminals. But 600 million? Do the math.

Don't get me wrong. I sometimes carry more in cargo than I know I should. I sometimes use the wrong ship, fly through the wrong systems, and do it at the wrong time. I sometimes don't bother to scout. And sometimes I get ganked. As I should. It isn't worth starting a forum thread. It isn't worth quitting EVE. And it isn't something that needs balanced,

Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#36 - 2013-12-29 15:43:56 UTC
James McMario wrote:
Annathalia Blood wrote:
Can I have your stuff? Please....



Not yet. :) Some people here just grabbed my attention ;)


Don't give your stuff to someone that won't even post with their main.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Annathalia Blood
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2013-12-29 15:46:45 UTC
James McMario wrote:
Annathalia Blood wrote:
Can I have your stuff? Please....



Not yet. :) Some people here just grabbed my attention ;)


That's fine :) I'll just wait a bit longer ;)

Cheers mate o/
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#38 - 2013-12-29 15:49:32 UTC
you're bad
Annathalia Blood
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2013-12-29 15:54:40 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
James McMario wrote:
Annathalia Blood wrote:
Can I have your stuff? Please....



Not yet. :) Some people here just grabbed my attention ;)


Don't give your stuff to someone that won't even post with their main.



Prejudice? Assumptions might be tricky my friend. Human history show it done so much harm in the past. To everyone :(
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-12-29 16:00:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Severide
Pewty McPew wrote:

Where do I start?

1. Get a T1 Varients
2. Use cargo expanders (It lowers your EHP by quite a bit, but ok)
3. Don't add resistance mods just extenders
4. Never avoid Jita
5. Don't use armor plates
6. Never break up your cargo so it's economicaly worth ganking you.
7. When a Tornado or Catalyst are on grid when your hauling attack ASAP
8. Always autopilot
9. Never usa a scout.
10. Never avoid Jita

I could go on but the above is a very bad starting point for you.


This is way more fun to tell people...